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We have several computers between our house & shop. One had Windows 10, a lap top. The rest had Windows 7, all desktops. My wife's computer & the main computer in the shop were over 8 years old Windows 7 machines. We replaced those 2 with new windows 10 computers. I decided to upgrade those to Windows 10.

While searching for the best place to purchase the Windows 10 software & how to go about upgrading the older computers, I came across a youtube video that was a great help.
I upgraded 2 computers today & have 2 more to go. All trouble free & activated. You do have to start out with an activated legal copy of Windows on your computer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc5zYUECk1Q&t=432s
 

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Stay with 7.......I wish I could have.

8 is a pita......Maybe 10 is better:dunno:
 

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Stay with 7.......I wish I could have.

8 is a pita......Maybe 10 is better:dunno:
I was in your camp untill the last couple of updates which have actually will it appears they have, fixed issues with 10 that i have been fighting since day 1. You would not believe all the hoops MS put me through to "fix" these issues none of which worked. With the last update the last issue i had with win 10 is gone. I have always had to hit log in several times before it would actually allow me to log in then with the last series of updates it got better and better and now it works like its supposed to!:bigthumb:
 

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Stay with 7.......I wish I could have.

8 is a pita......Maybe 10 is better:dunno:
I agree Windows 8 and 8.1 were big mistakes. Anything before Windows 10 isn't really secure anymore. Windows 10 is actually pretty good if you turn off the most intrusive features, BUT the updates have been a real problem lately (breaking things). Keep a good solid, current backup!
 

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As a tech enthusiast both personal and career(web application developer) I will say I prefer 7 lol. It’s just a much simpler OS. 10 has a lot of “neat” things. But so much of what it comes with and features are just bloat. It seems to run great by all means. But 7 did as well.

I like that Microsoft makes there minimum software packages free to previous customers. But 10 has so much of the “Android feel” of “link to this” “login here””use our app” “send endless data to the mothership”. I have mixed feelings on all of it. At home I avoid my pc anymore. I would prefer to spend my time in the barn at home if I’m paid to sit behind the keyboard all week.

Rant over. Sorry everyone!


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Stay with 7.......I wish I could have.

8 is a pita......Maybe 10 is better:dunno:
I LOVED 7 but you can't stay there. (also LOVED XP and 98) seems like every other Windows OS bites...(95, ME, Vista, 8)

I'm an IT guy responsible for 3) K-12 public schools...about 1200 Windows devices are "mine"(and about 400 iPads and 500 Chromebooks)... I've been in it for a living since 1998. We have to keep things secure. With Win7 officially "end of extended support" Jan of 2020, there will be no more updates for 7. With the ransomware, malicious email, etc.. you do want to be secure. 10 is secure, moreso than any past MS OSs have ever been.

We (my organization... that supports 50 schools.. about 30,000 windows machines) never gave Windows 8 a second look, it was horrible... 7 Pro has been great, but we are just finishing up all the upgrades by the end of this month. Went right to 10.

Windows 10 has it's challenges, but overall has proven reliable, secure, and relatively easy to manage and keep up to date. It is considered a "service" now.. not a piece of software you own, so there are choices you don't have anymore (to update or not).

Don't be afraid of 10... its ok, (It's actually more like 7 than 8 was), and you can't stay in the past OS and trust your security after January 14th.
 

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I taught myself how to run a computer in 08...shortly after the "election" I had Zero work ...New Construction ,residential.

My wife was not pleased as I took the reins of Her system.

Up to that point...Never had a use for a computer.....then ..wow. I can't even weork @ Mc Donalds if I don't figure this out.

And so I did..and I liked it...Oh lord. the Gun bug came back & I found a few homes.

7 was so simple...I hate 8.

I'm to the point of I've screwed up my 8 set up so bad and I despise it...Is 10 ok or should I baby this box through till 20 or whatever>>??...I feel its only gonna get worse...aaaaannnnnddd then ...yup its coming...Were gonna have to PAY big bucks @ some point..just to stay "updated" or pick your werd.

Minor rant

I wish every satelite would fall out of the sky.
I wish these computers never exisised.......aside from the many friends all over the planet I've met.
This technology is the death of "normal"......Our kids are screwed.


ok I'm done.

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I taught myself how to run a computer in 08...shortly after the "election" I had Zero work ...New Construction ,residential.

My wife was not pleased as I took the reins of Her system.

Up to that point...Never had a use for a computer.....then ..wow. I can't even weork @ Mc Donalds if I don't figure this out.

And so I did..and I liked it...Oh lord. the Gun bug came back & I found a few homes.

7 was so simple...I hate 8.

I'm to the point of I've screwed up my 8 set up so bad and I despise it...Is 10 ok or should I baby this box through till 20 or whatever>>??...I feel its only gonna get worse...aaaaannnnnddd then ...yup its coming...Were gonna have to PAY big bucks @ some point..just to stay "updated" or pick your werd.

Minor rant

I wish every satelite would fall out of the sky.
I wish these computers never exisised.......aside from the many friends all over the planet I've met.
This technology is the death of "normal"......Our kids are screwed.


ok I'm done.

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Supposedly there will never be any versions after Windows 10. Just updates to 10.

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As a tech enthusiast both personal and career(web application developer) I will say I prefer 7 lol. It’s just a much simpler OS. 10 has a lot of “neat” things. But so much of what it comes with and features are just bloat. It seems to run great by all means. But 7 did as well.

I like that Microsoft makes there minimum software packages free to previous customers. But 10 has so much of the “Android feel” of “link to this” “login here””use our app” “send endless data to the mothership”. I have mixed feelings on all of it. At home I avoid my pc anymore. I would prefer to spend my time in the barn at home if I’m paid to sit behind the keyboard all week.

Rant over. Sorry everyone!


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I agree with you but you can get around all that crap without much issue and then it is better than 7 pro. i have 10 pro and like i mentioned above it wasn't untill recently that it works like ms presented it. Oh. i had 7 pro...actually i still have the disc but i don't use it at all did untill last year on one computer
 

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I liked XP pro and 7 pro easy transition from one to the other. We skipped 8 all together. Win10 seems ok it takes a little getting used to. The right click on the start button is my friend. More simple things seem to be hidden.
 

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I liked XP pro and 7 pro easy transition from one to the other. We skipped 8 all together. Win10 seems ok it takes a little getting used to. The right click on the start button is my friend. More simple things seem to be hidden.

Aaaahh, you have found the secret. Right click has always been there. It is your choice of options. You can right click on most anything and have more options. Try right clicking on a cell in Excel and see what options are there. Right click is where the real power is. One of the most used is the copy/cut/paste options.

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Stay with 7.......I wish I could have.

8 is a pita......Maybe 10 is better:dunno:
Unfortunately, Windows 7 reaches end of life in January. No more updates after that so get on the Internet at your own risk.

Could not agree more on Windows 8. Microsoft saw the tablet/phone market exploding without their participation and decided the unify their OS so desktop users had the same interface as their tablet users. Unfortunately MS's phone and tablet offerings were junk so they were cancelled but we're now stuck with the tablet GUI on the desktop.

Windows 10 is better than 8, but 7 is still better than both, IMHO. I'm soon going to have to upgrade my 7 machine though I'll probably stick in a new drive and do a clean install of 10 while preserving the 7 volume, just in case...
 

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I thought the same about 10 at first too! We (wife and I) went straight from 7 to 10 on our desktops, pretty much when it was first available for upgrade. Once you get used to the inner workings of it, Win 10 is a pretty nice OS!
 

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My biggest beef with 10 is the inability to turn off auto update. You can pause it for a while but you can't make it notify you before it starts to download updates. What we ran into is our internet speed and the processing ability of an older laptop did not render the computer usable when we turned it on. As soon as we started the system it would start checking for updates and until it finished downloading and updating the system didn't have enough processing power to run any word processing or surf the web or anything.

I have rolled everything that WAS upgraded to 10 back to 7. You can download the OS and get keys off eBay for just a couple of bucks.

I even took one notebook and installed XP on it the other day. I had some software I needed to run that was designed for XP and it was easier to do that than try to get it to run on 7. One of my notebooks would not run in XP mode. This one had a bad hard drive so I stuck a cheap 128 GB SSD in it. I used the OS and key from an XP disc I had laying around and it authorized the OS so it didn't time out in 30 days. I have read that MS doesn't even look to see if the key is already in use since the OS is obsolete. I did have trouble finding drivers for the newer system that were XP compatible. the video is running with the generic XP video driver. I finally got the wireless card to work so it could access the internet although I don't really need it for surfing.

I have only encountered a virus that locked up a computer a couple of times and it's been years since the last occurrence of that. I think I recovered by starting in safe mode and running widows defender to fix it. I might have just done a restore? It's been so long I don't remember but I do remember the system wouldn't start and run normal until I got the crap out of it. And before the comments start the virus was NOT acquired from a porn site.
 

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My biggest beef with 10 is the inability to turn off auto update. You can pause it for a while but you can't make it notify you before it starts to download updates. What we ran into is our internet speed and the processing ability of an older laptop did not render the computer usable when we turned it on. As soon as we started the system it would start checking for updates and until it finished downloading and updating the system didn't have enough processing power to run any word processing or surf the web or anything.

I have rolled everything that WAS upgraded to 10 back to 7. You can download the OS and get keys off eBay for just a couple of bucks.

I even took one notebook and installed XP on it the other day. I had some software I needed to run that was designed for XP and it was easier to do that than try to get it to run on 7. One of my notebooks would not run in XP mode. This one had a bad hard drive so I stuck a cheap 128 GB SSD in it. I used the OS and key from an XP disc I had laying around and it authorized the OS so it didn't time out in 30 days. I have read that MS doesn't even look to see if the key is already in use since the OS is obsolete. I did have trouble finding drivers for the newer system that were XP compatible. the video is running with the generic XP video driver. I finally got the wireless card to work so it could access the internet although I don't really need it for surfing.

I have only encountered a virus that locked up a computer a couple of times and it's been years since the last occurrence of that. I think I recovered by starting in safe mode and running widows defender to fix it. I might have just done a restore? It's been so long I don't remember but I do remember the system wouldn't start and run normal until I got the crap out of it. And before the comments start the virus was NOT acquired from a porn site.

Here are a couple of things you can do to somewhat control the updates or at least pause them for a while.

Dave

PAUSE UPDATES......
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I started with an Apple II clone in the early 80's changing hardware, firmware, and software to make it do interesting things. Added an early Compaq Deskpro and tricked that out. Played with a lot of early languages and dug deep into operating systems. All self taught of course. Then computers started being a larger part of my day job and I started losing interest. It wasn't just a hobby anymore. Teaching radar systems meant I had to teach more and more computer hardware and software as the years went by. In some cases I had to figure out what engineering was trying to do and then make it work. I often had to teach before the system was ready.

In some ways I miss DOS, CPM, and other pre-mouse systems. The first Windows I sorta liked was XP, then 7. I even bought a refurbished desktop with Win7 on it last year. Still looking for the TUIT to get it set up to replace my laptop, which also has Win7. I was forced to use Win10 for a couple years and hated it. I also hate touch interfaces.

I don't use the computer much since I retired, mainly email and some info searches. When the Win7 is no longer viable I guess I'll finally take the time to switch to a Linux distribution. I am not looking forward to converting my wife to Linux but I'll have to by then. Just getting her to use Firefox instead of Internet Explorer has been trying.

As a comparison, I hear we'll have to update our flip phones soon when they stop supporting 3G networks. Neither of us want a smart phone. When we find something we like we'll keep on using it until we can't. And if we like it, they stop making it. Newer is not always better, especially when it is not ready for prime time. And to me, adding fluff and moving things around is not an upgrade. Win10 does have some nice features, but I don't care for the interface and I am just not part of the current culture that it appeals to.
 
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