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I'm going to get an MCUT(maybe SCUT). Probably a year or so out, I like to plan ahead. I'm thinking new, but would consider the right used package(I'm Leary of inheriting other people's problems).

I'll want an MMM, my yard is ~2.5 to 3 acres. I also want a backhoe attachment. Just think bigger/better, I've been looking and studying the 2038R the most. I see a lot of dealers advertise this tractor with FEL, MMM and backhoe. The MMM is always a 60". I'm thinking I'd like the 72". Is there a particular reason for a 60 over a 72(lack of power, space, one more reliable than another etc)?

I'm not even sure if I'd want/use a FEL. I've got a nice 3020D with FEL and 72" gyramor 307 side wheel and 84" John Deere box blade I use on my driveway. Total property size is 45 acres.

I could see all kinds of uses for the backhoe, and I'm wanting a bigger, more comfortable mower. Currently have an X320 with 54" and my original 1997 GT 275 48". My yard gets kinda rough with mole tunnels, cattle occasionally getting in yard. Soil is soft so it prints easy. GT 275 will jar me pretty good when it's nice and dry out, X320 is much better(bigger and much easier steering too). I'm imagining a 1 ton mower being pretty smooth.
 

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I'll want an MMM, my yard is ~2.5 to 3 acres. I also want a backhoe attachment. Just think bigger/better, I've been looking and studying the 2038R the most. I see a lot of dealers advertise this tractor with FEL, MMM and backhoe. The MMM is always a 60". I'm thinking I'd like the 72". Is there a particular reason for a 60 over a 72(lack of power, space, one more reliable than another etc)?
There are, IMO, a couple of reasons you see the 60" more often.

For one, Deere has traditionally kept the "standard" mower decks as close as possible to the tire track width on most of their CUTs. On my 2032R, the track width is advertised as 54" and pretty much every recommended implement for it also happens to be 54" (Snow plow, front or rear snow blowers, mower deck, etc...). It'll handle larger implements but that's what Deere always defaults to as a recommendation. Most advertising you see is based on Deere's "recommended package".

The other is quality of cut. If you have any slope in your yard the mower deck shifts whenever you ride horizontally along the slope (because.... gravity!). When it does that the deck is no longer level and one edge will cut the grass shorter than the other edge. The larger the mower deck, the more pronounced the difference. I've also seen complaints from some people that the 72" tends to scalp the lawn more.

I don't think the quality/reliability of the decks themselves is any different between them and a 2038R will easily power either deck. If you've got a big, wide open flat yard the 72" might be just the ticket for you.
 

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I have the 72D on my 2032R, my yard is nothing close to flat, and I am happy with the cut. Rolling over the edge of an incline it scales a bit, but so would anything else. Here's a thread on cut quality:

https://www.greentractortalk.com/forums/forum.php#/topics/188060?page=1

Also, once you add you and and the mower, the machine will weigh 3000 pounds. If you ballast the rear tires, it will weight closer to 3500 pounds.

If you want a bagger for the mower, this is a fantastic option:
https://www.greentractortalk.com/forums/forum.php#/topics/174948?page=1
 

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I have the 72D on my 2032R, my yard is nothing close to flat, and I am happy with the cut. Rolling over the edge of an incline it scales a bit, but so would anything else. Here's a thread on cut quality:

https://www.greentractortalk.com/forums/forum.php#/topics/188060?page=1

Also, once you add you and and the mower, the machine will weigh 3000 pounds. If you ballast the rear tires, it will weight closer to 3500 pounds.

If you want a bagger for the mower, this is a fantastic option:
https://www.greentractortalk.com/forums/forum.php#/topics/174948?page=1
Don't be scared to get a 2032/8R with a 72" MMM. They mow fabulously. I have 4.6 acres of not so flat yard. Sure.....on some of the bigger uneven areas it does leave some spots a bit higher, but I don't mind. It just takes a bit more finesse and trying to figure out the best way to mow that particular area. It mows very nice and stripes even nicer. If the ground is pretty saturated(it has been a very wet early fall so far here in Iowa)....it does cut a bit of tracks in the very squishy part. I actually had to use 4WD to mow last time for a lot of my yard as it was soo muddy but didn't have a choice as the grass is growing like crazy and we've had 7" of rain in the last 2-3 weeks here. Still have to mow otherwise it'll get out of control! Any other questions....don't be scared to ask. Loving my 2038R...only had it 2 months and already have almost 65 hrs on it!
 

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If mowing is your primary concern and you want a really nice finish cut you may want to consider a wing mower. I believe the series tractor you're looking at is in the 30's PTO HP range (??) which is good for a 12' to 15' mower.
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Thanks the the replies. My land is relatively flat. I like the bagger idea, but something like a small silage wagon. This year especially, with so much early rain, and now so much late rain, I can't keep up.

I have one of those lawn sweeps I use from time to time, but it's a pain in the but, doesn't hold much.

I got to thinking an FEL with forks might be handy. On occasion I get shipments at my shop that I need to get home, I've already got a trailer that'd be perfect for hauling one of these trsctors, least I think it would be. It's 6'4"x12'4" inside, tandem 3500lb axles.
 

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If mowing is your primary concern and you want a really nice finish cut you may want to consider a wing mower. I believe the series tractor you're looking at is in the 30's PTO HP range (??) which is good for a 12' to 15' mower.
I actually wouldn't mind something like that for my 3020 to mow my hay Meadows before winter after hay is cut. They're right up by the road along side my yard, but I could probably use that 72D to do it too.

There are Soooo many options to choose on these trsctors, I'm not sure where to start!

Then I saw mention in another thread that possibly a heat and A/C cab coming for this line in 2020?? I'd be all over a cab with A/C. I probably would spend more time in it than the house.
 

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I’d get the FEL. I suppose in theory you could just get a backhoe but the FEL is almost always used to set down on the ground for stability.
I agree, get the loader. I've used my BH without the FEL installed and it didn't do very good. It wants to drag the machine closer to your work. Having the ability to set the FEL down and take weight off the front tires makes a big difference.
 

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You don’t want a backhoe without a loader. In fact I doubt and dealer would sell you one that way. No way to stabilize the front of the tractor.
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So many options is right. Sounds like you have some time to go shopping!

Enjoy the adventure.
 

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Finished mowing my lawn after 5" of rain this past week. That reminded me an FEL on a smaller tractor would come in handy.

A couple months back I had the 3020 out in the yard removing pine trees, it was wet then too. Left some ruts I still need to fill but after I got the trees out, I didn't want the 5 ton tractor back on the yard.

This is going to lead to needing a box blade for the smaller tractor too.

Oh boy!
 

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Also reminds me. Afterowing the yard, I got the 3020/gyramor 307 out to mow a hay meadow and do some ditch clean up. I have about an 1/8th mile of ditch that the 3020/307 won't fit down in. When I was up top at edge of road I though a 4' 3 pt would work great down there.
 

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Are the specs right in the brochure for the 2032/2038?

I'm thinking the show the same engine number, but 2032 is slightly bigger CID, yet 2038 is more HP.
 

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Are the specs right in the brochure for the 2032/2038?

I'm thinking the show the same engine number, but 2032 is slightly bigger CID, yet 2038 is more HP.
They share an engine block. The 2038R is turbo charged. The 2032R isn't.
 

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Are the specs right in the brochure for the 2032/2038?

I'm thinking the show the same engine number, but 2032 is slightly bigger CID, yet 2038 is more HP.
They share an engine block. The 2038R is turbo charged. The 2032R isn't.
Is the turbo worth it? Any reliability concerns? I like that the 2038 gets it to 30 PTO HP. Always figure more power is better.
 

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Finished mowing my lawn after 5" of rain this past week. That reminded me an FEL on a smaller tractor would come in handy.

A couple months back I had the 3020 out in the yard removing pine trees, it was wet then too. Left some ruts I still need to fill but after I got the trees out, I didn't want the 5 ton tractor back on the yard.

This is going to lead to needing a box blade for the smaller tractor too.

Oh boy!
It won't stop there :flag_of_truce: there really is no limit to the number of useful implements. :lol:
 

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Is the turbo worth it? Any reliability concerns? I like that the 2038 gets it to 30 PTO HP. Always figure more power is better.
There have been a good number of threads over the last ~two years on the 32 vs 38 topic. It would be worth wile to find a few and check them out.

There have been reliability concerns, but I haven’t heard of anyone actually have an issue with the turbo. As long as you give the engine a couple minutes of cool down before shutting it off after it’s been working hard, you should be fine. I got the 38 and like it. That said, the consensus appears to be that you will likely not notice the difference between the 32/38 in most situations. Since you do have a larger tractor, I’d probably save a few bucks and choose the 32.


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Is the turbo worth it? Any reliability concerns? I like that the 2038 gets it to 30 PTO HP. Always figure more power is better.
If, like Jamone said, you're willing to leave it running for a couple of minutes every time you get the turbo hot, then yeah, it is. Like...why not, right? More power never hurts. But if you find that annoying or know you won't do it, then no, because either it will annoy you to no end, or if you don't do it, the turbo will eventually fail (and probably take your DPF with it). This is why I never keep a turbo car and always trade it in, because I'm far too impatient to sit in a car for two minutes every time I park. I mean I could always get a turbo timer, but new cars are fun. :)

Or at least that's what I would have said before, or would say again if I knew why Tim's (of Tractor Time with Tim) 2038R only dynoed at 27 PTO hp when the 1025R and BX(something...26?) both got somewhere around 24-25hp on that same dyno on the same day. Did Tim ever figure that out? I haven't been paying attention.
 
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