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I’ve been blowing snow for years with a 54” snowblower on my 2320 and I’m thinking about changing it up this coming winter and buying a snow pusher.

It looks like the HLA pusher with backdrag is the way to go. What would be a good size snow pusher for a 2320 in northern New England where we get a lot of snow? They have 54”, 60”, 66” and 72”.

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Unlike the snowblower, traction and weight is the name of the game with a snow pusher. Since you can't angle the pusher you must bear the force of pushing a huge pile of snow to the location where you intend to pile it.

I would think that "getting a lot of snow" and a pusher on a light machine like the 2320 would be a less than ideal combo.

Obviously you want something that will cover the width of the tires. If you actually intend to push a lot of snow I don't think I would go over 60-inches.
 

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Express Steel, made in Indiana, has 10% off their pushers right now. They can also be found on eBay for a pretty good price, shipped to your door.

I'd throw an offer of 1500, and see what they counter with, if they counter. Off season sales, are a big insentive for great prices.
I bought mine in August 2 years ago, and they accepted my first offer.
American made, heavy duty, shipped at a good price. Hard to beat in my opinion.
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Check out PJR832's (member here on GTT) YouTube videos.
Here's one...
 
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thank you. I hadn’t seen that and I like the price better than the HLA. One thing I do like about the HLA is the back drag is fully enclosed, which seems like a better design. The XP24 just has a back drag bar. Does that work well? I can picture snow flowing out over the bar as you back drag. Maybe I could add a top plate to keep the snow in while back dragging.

Express Steel, made in Indiana, has 10% off their pushers right now. They can also be found on eBay for a pretty good price, shipped to your door.

I'd throw an offer of 1500, and see what they counter with, if they counter. Off season sales, are a big insentive for great prices.
I bought mine in August 2 years ago, and they accepted my first offer.
American made, heavy duty, shipped at a good price. Hard to beat in my opinion. View attachment 801330 View attachment 801331 View attachment 801332
 

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I can't really comment on brand, but I will echo what others have said: get one wide enough to cover your wheels, but I wouldn't go much past that.
 

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thank you. I hadn’t seen that and I like the price better than the HLA. One thing I do like about the HLA is the back drag is fully enclosed, which seems like a better design. The XP24 just has a back drag bar. Does that work well? I can picture snow flowing out over the bar as you back drag. Maybe I could add a top plate to keep the snow in while back dragging.
I honestly cannot comment, as I use my box blade to drag out from the garage doors.

The money saved might be able to buy you a set of chains for the rear. It'd be a little snow pushing beast then.

My winter snow removal setup is the same as PJR832s above, in his video. It works pretty good. We had a lot of snow last winter and I had some huge snow mounds all over the property. She got a workout but never missed a beat.
 
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I live in upstate new york. I turned the 6 foot blade off my jeep into a snow pusher and use it with a 1025r. I have four paved driveways and parking areas I plow. So far the tractor has done fine with the 6 foot pusher.
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The snow pusher has the advantage of being able to pile the snow higher than a plow. As long as you can always end the push and leave the snow piled there, then the pusher will work fine. If you have 90 degree turns or parking areas or hills which limit piling snow in that area, you will have to put more snow in less places. Also, once you begin to pile the snow, it will likely go through freeze and thaw cycles, which will mean the snow pile will turn to ice and short of using your FEL bucket, its not going to be moved until it melts.

Plan your snow clearing carefully, thinking where you can push the snow into a pile at the end of each push. For those with a lot of open space, you can pile the snow everywhere. For those with landscape beds or other areas where they can't pile snow, it can mean pushing snow much further, to find a place to stack it.

A 54" snow pusher is too small for the 2320 series tractor in my opinion. 60" is fine, and 72" is about as wide as you want to go. With light fluffy snow, you would be thinking "I wish I had a much bigger pusher". But then, the first wet heavy snow and the 54" snow pusher is going to really test the tractor, its ballast and your traction aids (chains, ballast, etc). You have to plan for a variety of snow conditions as they will change through the winter season.

You need more 3ph ballast with the larger snow pusher. Honestly, you will find the tractor pushes snow better with 500+ pounds of rear ballast and if you are trying to use a rear blade as well as a snow pusher, most rear blades on the SCUTS and CUTS series aren't as heavy as they need to be for ideal snow clearing results.

Often, you can hang weight on the rear implement. Don't be afraid to try different amounts of rear ballast. And expect the needs for ballast to change with the snow conditions. The colder it is, the less rear ballast you will need as the snow is lighter and the traction conditions better. The closer the temp is to freezing, the worse the traction and the more rear ballast is needed to achieve an effective amount of traction. My 3ph ballast amounts vary between 500 and 850 pounds, depending upon the snow conditions and the temps.

Ballast is about machine balance. The wetter and heavier the snow you are pushing, the more rear ballast you will need to maintain traction and keep the machine turning when pushing snow. Too much rear ballast and the snow pusher will be harder to control. Too little rear ballast and traction will suffer and the snow pusher will actually push the tractor around. That's why having a ballast amount you can adjust is critical, even if its just adding suitcase weights or bags of snow melt or sand being added.

Make sure you report back on your selection and then also your experiences using the pusher you purchase. Photo's are also encouraged........
 

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Here is my 60 inch Express Steel pusher, worked great, no problems.

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I run a 2320 with a sb1154 blower on the back, and a 60 inch cotech snow pusher.
I clear about 800 feet of road and 7 home entrances. We live on a private road that isn't maintained by the municipality.
These are my observations:
You can expect that the 2320 will handle most snow falls that you are hit with. On the very rare occasions that you receive a significant amount (2 feet +) of wet heavy snow, you will definitely be putting your machine through it's passes. The trick here is to slow down, and let your tractor tell you at what speed if feels comfortable running at.
The snow pusher is a definite improvement over a bucket, as it allows you to push to a certain area and then lift and back to work. With the loader, you push and then lift the loader then empty the bucket, and then back to work. The pusher will also contain a lot more snow in one push than the bucket will.
Once you've pushed the snow to a certain area, then it's nothing to turn around and hit it with the blower, so as not to create large banks or mounds if you have the room.
With the blower on the back, your ballast needs will be met. You will however, need to help it in the way of traction, and I have added chains for this.
The one draw back to a pusher is that it always wants to go strait, so if you need to turn at any time while pushing, then 4x4 and front chains come in handy.
The option of a back drag like the HLA and my cotech are equipped with, is a must have in my opinion. I can get to within an inch or 2 of garage doors and other obstacles to clear the snow.
Now, with all that said, there is a slight learning curve to using a pusher. With a little time and practice, you'll see that under the right conditions a pusher is a very efficient snow removal tool to add to the front of your 2320.
Good luck, and enjoy your snow season.
 
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