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first of all, I think this has been asked but I can't find the post and have been searching for the past half hour.
If you find it please let me know!
I have a 1025r TLB but I didn't get the MMM.
However, I have a need for it now. I want to get the most basic setup which is probably the mechanical lift.
If I purchase the deck (probably 54") what would I also need to purchase? Is there a catalog that has this information?
 

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You should only need the deck and the "attaching parts". I would also recommend the "auto PTO connector". Without it you have to get on your knees and manualy connect/disconnect the PTO shaft.

 

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As far as which flavor of lift to get; if you need to raise and lower the 3pt hitch while you are actively mowing (without the MMM changing height), then you will need to get the "independent lift" or "hydraulic lift" (very few people need to do this). Otherwise I highly recommend getting the standard "mechanical lift".

With the standard "Mechanical lift", the height is controlled by the position control lever. When you raise the 3pt, the mower deck goes up, when you lower the 3pt the deck goes down to wherever you have the height control knob set to. You only need to lower the 3pt about half way for the mower deck to be all the way down. If you want to use the 3pt without affecting the deck then you use the height control to keep the deck in the highest position (which used to be called "lock") - or just remove the deck.

An advantage of this is that you do not need to use the height control knob (the stepped cam) to set the height of the deck. You can use the position control lock to set the height.

With the other two lifts a dedicated hydraulic cylinder is used. The disadvantage to this is that it is an "up" only control. You push the button and the deck raises, let go and it drops. You must use the height control knob to set the height of the deck.

IMO, the independent lift is an up-sell. In my case it would have added another thousand dollars to the price. "You'll love it" is what my dealer told me, I told him the standard would be fine and I will be installing it myself. If you trust your dealer and they sell you on it you will probably be happy with it - not knowing that the standard "mechanical lift" is actually nicer to use (unless you fit that certain use case that requires the independent lift).
 

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The needed parts for a 1025 that's never had a deck (deck itself not discussed):

BLV10736 Lift arm kit, which also has the front draft brackets. Those mount on the outside of the frame in the front. The front 2 mounting holes go between the frame and the grill guard. Do one side at a time and you won't have to wrestle with the grill guard. The side you're not doing will hold it.
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A picture of how they relate to the deck.
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BLV10737 Shaft kit, unless your tractor came with it from the factory. It was either 2017 or 2018 when the factory started adding them as stock. Earlier tractors it had to be added. Check to see if it's already on your tractor.
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Now the options of controlling the lift:

BLV10738 is the rockshaft mechanical linkage kit.
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How BLV10738 relates to BLV10737
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A brief overview of the 3 choices for controlling the lift:

It's your choice what to get, but the mower lift shaft, BLV10737, has to be controlled by something. The mechanical linkage type uses the rockshaft lever, which also controls the 3 point hitch, and they are not separateable. When the deck goes up and down, so does the 3 point. Many people don't mind, but if you have something on the 3 point, like a power bagger, it'll move also, which isn't something you typically want to do.

Option 2 is the hydraulic lift. It uses a hydraulic cylinder attached to the mower lift shaft (BLV10737) and is controlled by the SCV joystick. The downside is it uses one of the quick connect ports for the loader, so if you also have the loader attached, you lose one of the functions of the loader, usually the curl function. Many, like myself, don't mow with the loader on so it's not a problem. This is the system I have.

Option 3 is the independent lift. This also uses a hydraulic cylinder but is controlled by a switch on the dash, and you don't lose the use of the loader quick disconnect. Some have mounted the switch on the right side of the dash instead of the factory recommended left hand side. It's hard to turn the height adjustment knob and press the switch at the same time if they are both on the left side. The downfall of this system is the mower deck only stays raised while you're holding the switch. Once you let go, the deck drops and stops on the height adjustment cam wherever that is set at.

I can get the part numbers for the hydraulic or independent lift kits if you want, but you mentioned you were interested in the mechanical lift.

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If you're interested in the Autoconnect shaft, it can be added anytime. If the deck has the manual connect shaft, you remove the shaft from the gearbox and add a male stub shaft adaptor onto the gearbox, along with mounting the Autoconnect shaft to the tractor.

BLV10616 Autoconnect Shft Kit.jpeg

Here's a couple links for your reading pleasure where we discussed adding the mower lifts.

Buying a MMM

New 1025R owner help with installation of the 60D auto Connect hardware
 

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thanks for the quick information yall... now to run this by the wife to make the purchase :)
Oops.....forgot to mention, use this link to go to JDParts. Register and add your local dealer, then you can see pricing and their inventory status on parts.

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Since you're running this past your finance committee, you might want the prices :laugh:
 

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...The mechanical linkage type uses the rockshaft lever, which also controls the 3 point hitch, and they are not separateable. When the deck goes up and down, so does the 3 point. Many people don't mind, but if you have something on the 3 point, like a power bagger, it'll move also, which isn't something you typically want to do.
To be clear - the deck reaches its lowest point well before the 3pt is all the way down. You don't need to drop the 3pt all the way in order for the deck to be at its lowest position. When not mowing you can lock the deck in the up position and have full use of the 3pt without it affecting the deck.
 

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Depending on the year of your tractor, you may not require the parts in the illustration below. The later model tractors are built with these items installed at the factory. You may want to check yours for them.

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You should only need the deck and the "attaching parts". I would also recommend the "auto PTO connector". Without it you have to get on your knees and manualy connect/disconnect the PTO shaft.

How do I add this to the online catalogue? I can only get the mounting parts to come up but not the deck.


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Those numbers in that chart are sales codes not part numbers. I'm not 100% but I don't think they show a part number for a complete deck. They do have a part number for what could be a shell & some attached pieces but I don't think it's a complete deck. It's just under $2000 where I believe a complete deck is closer to $2300-2400. For a complete deck, it's best to check with a dealer.
 

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Depending on the year of your tractor, you may not require the parts in the illustration below. The later model tractors are built with these items installed at the factory. You may want to check yours for them.

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Martin, I knew the newer ones come with BLV10737 shaft, but do they come with the mechanical linkage BLV10738 also?
 

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That used one is for a 2320. It's not the same.

If the dealers quoting you $2048 for the deck and lift, yeah I'd say that's a good price. Double check that that's not just the deck.
 

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That used one is for a 2320. It's not the same.

If the dealers quoting you $2048 for the deck and lift, yeah I'd say that's a good price. Double check that that's not just the deck.
Thanks I did confirm it included the lift.


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