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I’m looking at getting a grapple for my 1025 and the Wr long diverter kit. I’m not sure when but I’d like to get the T&T or at the very least the top from fit rite. Is there anything I need to do now or add now so I don’t waste time and money down the road? Or do I just add the Wr diverter & grapple now and then worry about the T&t when the time comes?
I’m pretty sure I’m getting the new frontier grapple & diverter within a month but that’s not 100%
 

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If your looking for a “diverter” kit, then you should be looking at the Artillian kit, it’s a more refined kit making for a cleaner fit and install. WRL does offer the true 3rd function kit, but in my opinion that’s not a great option for small tractors with limited hydraulic flow. If you go the diverter route, that will have no effect on adding remotes for a TNT setup.
 

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I’m looking at getting a grapple for my 1025 and the Wr long diverter kit. I’m not sure when but I’d like to get the T&T or at the very least the top from fit rite. Is there anything I need to do now or add now so I don’t waste time and money down the road? Or do I just add the Wr diverter & grapple now and then worry about the T&t when the time comes?
I’m pretty sure I’m getting the new frontier grapple & diverter within a month but that’s not 100%
If you feel that you need to have a true 3rd function instead of an actual diverter valve (diverter recommended) then I recommend that we put that true 3rd function valve stacked in with the other valves you will need for the top & tilt set. This makes for a cleaner over all installation having all the valves stacked together in one location. This way you don't have a need for a separate location for the WR Long valve as well as not having to make yet another set of hoses.

Maybe get a few prices and understand everything that needs to be done for each step and you can then make an informed decision and cost estimates based on doing things one way vs the other to achieve what your ultimate goal is going to be.
 

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If your looking for a “diverter” kit, then you should be looking at the Artillian kit, it’s a more refined kit making for a cleaner fit and install. WRL does offer the true 3rd function kit, but in my opinion that’s not a great option for small tractors with limited hydraulic flow. If you go the diverter route, that will have no effect on adding remotes for a TNT setup.
I was actually looking into the artillian one solely. My sales guy deals with Wr long so it would have been put into the 0% interest if I needed along with $300 installation if i just didn’t want to deal with it. He suggested i save the $300 and do it myself. I work ALOT especially at times so it may be easier for me to go make that money and just let them do it. It depends on work at that time.
I mentioned artliian to him and he was interested and will be looking into it.
Oh and I don’t know for sure if I’m looking for the diverter kit or not. I’m researching all that now since I’d also love the TnT sooner than later also.
Kenny I will email you one day as I had an idea for your hooks that you may or may not be able to do. And then I plan on making a purchase.

If you feel that you need to have a true 3rd function instead of an actual diverter valve (diverter recommended) then I recommend that we put that true 3rd function valve stacked in with the other valves you will need for the top & tilt set. This makes for a cleaner over all installation having all the valves stacked together in one location. This way you don't have a need for a separate location for the WR Long valve as well as not having to make yet another set of hoses.

Maybe get a few prices and understand everything that needs to be done for each step and you can then make an informed decision and cost estimates based on doing things one way vs the other to achieve what your ultimate goal is going to be.
And this is exactly why I’m looking into this. I need you guys to tell me what i need lol. I want my best option.
I emailed you about 2 months ago to get a round about quote so I know what I’m looking at when the time comes. So yes I need to look into getting all the valves & 3rd function rolled into one even if I wait to get the rest of the TnT at a later date.
I prolly should have read back through our emails. I didn’t ask to many questions as I didn’t want to take up to much time till I got more serious. I believe I’m getting a little more serious now.
I also mentioned fit rite to my sales guy and he liked what I was telling him. Maybe more business which you may or may not need. Hope that was ok and hope that helps you :bigthumb:

I don't know enough about your 1025R, but does it have any rear hydraulic valves??
No valves yet. Just a 2016 1025r tlb. I’m looking into possibly swapping out to a 2018 2025R with a backhoe
 

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I know you're super busy (just saw your other post where you got your first day off in a month!!), but don't let their offer of installing it sway you to the WR Long kit. The Artillian kit only took me a few hours to install and it was a good sense of accomplishment. It also gave me the confidence to tear into it when one of my spool valves acted up a couple of months ago. Had I let my dealer install it, I probably would have taken it back to them when I had an issue.

You're a super handy guy. Installing the diverter is going to be a no brainer for you!! :good2:
 

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I personally would go with a diverter, without question. Actually have them for loader 3rd functions on 2 of my tractors and one of them would be considered to have a higher GPM pump with a 17GPM implement pump. But depending on what you may actually need, it might be advantages to incorporate a true 3rd function in with the rear remote valves.

The reason I say this is because of the way I set things up, it is very easy to use the intended 3rd function valve as an additional rear remote.

BUT, you need to keep in mind that the actual tilt cylinders are different between the different models. You don't want to be getting this stuff thinking that you will simply take it off and put it on a different tractor. While some of the parts will work, everything WILL NOT.


All things that should be considered.
 

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I know you're super busy (just saw your other post where you got your first day off in a month!!), but don't let their offer of installing it sway you to the WR Long kit. The Artillian kit only took me a few hours to install and it was a good sense of accomplishment. It also gave me the confidence to tear into it when one of my spool valves acted up a couple of months ago. Had I let my dealer install it, I probably would have taken it back to them when I had an issue.

You're a super handy guy. Installing the diverter is going to be a no brainer for you!! :good2:
Thanks for the compliment. I appreciate it. Nope. If I need to choose between the two I’ll be going artlillian now. My dealer may even install it. He said he needed to show his guys first to make sure. The question about whether I’m going now or not will be time frame. I like to look at it like this. Can I do this work in the same amount of time to pay for it? If yes and I’m working 5-7 days a week it may be better for me to let them do it so I can just enjoy my grapple :). But I’m about to spend a good bit of money so I will first try and. And time to install it.

I personally would go with a diverter, without question. Actually have them for loader 3rd functions on 2 of my tractors and one of them would be considered to have a higher GPM pump with a 17GPM implement pump. But depending on what you may actually need, it might be advantages to incorporate a true 3rd function in with the rear remote valves.

The reason I say this is because of the way I set things up, it is very easy to use the intended 3rd function valve as an additional rear remote.

BUT, you need to keep in mind that the actual tilt cylinders are different between the different models. You don't want to be getting this stuff thinking that you will simply take it off and put it on a different tractor. While some of the parts will work, everything WILL NOT.


All things that should be considered.
Yes sir. I figured all of it was different. Different cylinders and hoses. I’m about to make my final decision on keeping my 1025 or jumping to the 2025. As soon as that is figured out I will be back to getting in touch with you
 

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I’m about to make my final decision on keeping my 1025 or jumping to the 2025. As soon as that is figured out I will be back to getting in touch with you
oh boy another new tractor is coming--:happy: along with a top-n-tilt with a set of rear remotes to boot. whoo--hoo. i say.

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I personally would go with a diverter, without question. Depending on what you may actually need, it might be advantages to incorporate a true 3rd function in with the rear remote valves.

The reason I say this is because of the way I set things up, it is very easy to use the intended 3rd function valve as an additional rear remote.

BUT, you need to keep in mind that the actual tilt cylinders are different between the different models. You don't want to be getting this stuff thinking that you will simply take it off and put it on a different tractor. While some of the parts will work, everything WILL NOT.


All things that should be considered.
I’m leaning more on the 2025r with factory backhoe with grapple. I believe I am looking to make the grapple work now and add just the top link within a year if not sooner. No tilt.
 

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I’m leaning more on the 2025r with factory backhoe with grapple. I believe I am looking to make the grapple work now and add just the top link within a year if not sooner. No tilt.
Get the diverter and be happy. :good2: Worry about the other stuff when-if the time comes. :kidw_truck_smiley:
 

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Get the diverter and be happy. :good2: Worry about the other stuff when-if the time comes. :kidw_truck_smiley:
Thanks. I believe that’s what I’m going to do. Grapple & diverted on the 2025 now and then save up to get the Top or the T&T next
 

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If your looking for a “diverter” kit, then you should be looking at the Artillian kit, it’s a more refined kit making for a cleaner fit and install. WRL does offer the true 3rd function kit, but in my opinion that’s not a great option for small tractors with limited hydraulic flow. If you go the diverter route, that will have no effect on adding remotes for a TNT setup.
If I purchase what I have circled below from artllian is that all I need for the complete installation on a 2018 2025r with the 120r loader?

The reason I would like to go the wr long was to put it In with 0% interest, and hold the dealer liable for anything that could go wrong. And to keep the cash in hand to get a few more things for my tractor :).
 

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If I purchase what I have circled below from artllian is that all I need for the complete installation on a 2018 2025r with the 120r loader?

The reason I would like to go the wr long was to put it In with 0% interest, and hold the dealer liable for anything that could go wrong. And to keep the cash in hand to get a few more things for my tractor :).
1) To my knowledge, yes that’s all you need for the tractor. The grapple may require different QD fittings to match the bulkhead on the Artillian kit. It uses 1/4” ISO 5675 “AG” style QD’s

2) Search google images of both systems.
 
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