2014 2025r gen 1 with h130 loader.

Anybody haul in back of a pickup ?

have a 3500hd with 8 foot box. Possibly back it in the box ?

Would save a lot of stress pulling trailer 400 miles one way and then home again.

I wouldn't recommend it for a whole bunch of reasons.

For starters, the tractor with loader is around 14' long and weighs close to 2500 lbs.

 

I wouldn't recommend it for a whole bunch of reasons.

For starters, the tractor with loader is around 14' long and weighs close to 2500 lbs.

my 4066r isnt 14 feet long with a loader...

my camper 5th wheel pin weight is around 2600 pounds.

pallets and proboxes of seed often around 2500-2800 pounds and see them in pickups all the time....

 

I would be very cautious driving 2-3K over your tailgate.
It sure does not seem like it would fit.
I have 3500 Ram with an 8ft bed, I was setting here trying to picture if I could get my Gen 2 2025R in the bed.
I have not put a tape to it, nor really every dreamed of even trying it, but now that I am thinking about it, I really don't think it would fit, and a Gen 1 2025R is physically larger then my Gen 2.

 

The weight likely isn't a problem, though depending on ballast and attachments (loader) it may be getting close to the payload capacity of your truck. The issue would be weight distribution and tying it down. The bed tie-down points likely aren't robust enough nor oriented correctly to properly fasten the tractor down. Plus the length of the tractor is going to put the weight center-of-gravity way too far back in the bed.

Use a trailer... It will be much more straightforward.

Rob

 

The weight likely isn't a problem, though depending on ballast and attachments (loader) it may be getting close to the payload capacity of your truck. The issue would be weight distribution and tying it down. The bed tie-down points likely aren't robust enough nor oriented correctly to properly fasten the tractor down. Plus the length of the tractor is going to put the weight center-of-gravity way too far back in the bed.

Use a trailer... It will be much more straightforward.

Rob

The bold reflects the concerns I would also share.

 

It might be a tad bit wider than the wheel wells. If you have the payload capacity it would be fine because it’s not that heavy. My concern would be loading it, if you had a dock to drive it in would be better than ramps. And I wouldn’t trust the tailgate to hold that weight while loading. Lengthwise you’d need to do some measuring. I’d trailer it all day long over having it in the bed.

 

A trailer sounds pretty low stress to me, easy load/unload and easy tie down.

 

A trailer sounds pretty low stress to me

And a whole lot safer!

 

You will also need some severe heavy duty ramps for loading.

It's your tractor, truck, and well being but I wouldn't even think about it.

 

Please post pics of this!

 

 

Maybe put the loader over the cab like this

 

The DOT will have a big grin on his face when he sees this go by!

 

The 2025R with a FEL and the backhoe you just bought for it 2 weeks ago?

You might get it into the bed with a bunch of weight hanging out the back. But how to secure it properly is another question. If you hit something, despite being a great driver in a big truck, you are going to be trying to stop that tractor with the back of your head. Thereby qualifying for a posthumously awarded Darwin.

DON’T DO IT, PLEASE !

 

What does when I bought it have to do with anything ? If I had the thing here I wouldn’t need to ask for measurements would I ?

backhoe is here. Guess what. It went in the back of my half ton pickup no problem. But I’m sure that was a stupid idea to not pull a trailer on ice roads.

 

This topic is really starting to remind me of this viral video I saw a while back.

 

And it didn’t long to remember why I haven’t posted on this site much in many years.
Wow it was a simple question if it would fit or not.

I’d measure the tractor if it was here

 

I’d measure the tractor if it was here

https://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/007/2/8/7282-john-deere-2025r-dimensions.html

 

you beat me to it, @MarkEagleUSA

Also, I think some folks are missing the detail that we're not talking about a 1/2 ton pickup here...OP has stated he has a 1-ton (3500) truck. The weight is not an issue.

I'm a little concerned about the vertical height of the weight and how that will affect the handling. If you take it easy, especially when turning/cornering, should be fine if you can get it tied down nice and tight. I wouldn't rely on just the bed tie-downs...get some legit stake pocket posts. Might have to go backwards and let the bucket hang out the back (as was mentioned), but the length of the actual tractor should be fine with a wheelbase of only 63 inches in an 8-ft bed. Take off the 3-pt hitch arms etc unless you want them in the cab with you through the glass LOL.

I'd be very concerned about the tailgate when taking the tractor on/off the truck...get one of those tailgate braces (or remove the tailgate altogether) versus relying on the cables. And some good ramps, of course...will need to be pretty long to keep the angle shallow enough.

I'm assuming that the tractor doesn't have spacers, or if it does that the wheels are narrower than the distance between the truck's wheel wells. Something to make a quick mental check of, anyway...I think a lot of trucks have about 51 inches there and I believe the gen1 2025r comes in right at 51 inches wide per tractor data. That's the one thing that I would really be wondering about.

This can be done safely (assuming it's not too wide)...but you need to put some thought into it. Good luck!

 

Also, I think some folks are missing the detail that we're not talking about a 1/2 ton pickup here...OP has stated he has a 1-ton (3500) truck. The weight is not an issue.

I'm a little concerned about the vertical height of the weight and how that will affect the handling. If you take it easy, especially when turning/cornering, should be fine if you can get it tied down nice and tight. I wouldn't rely on just the bed tie-downs...get some legit stake pocket posts. Might have to go backwards and let the bucket hang out the back (as was mentioned), but the length of the actual tractor should be fine with a wheelbase of only 63 inches in an 8-ft bed. Take off the 3-pt hitch arms etc unless you want them in the cab with you through the glass LOL.

The weight certainly COULD be a problem if it ends up with too much behind the rear axle of the truck. It's not just raw weight, but weight distribution that matters too.

And you think stake pocket tie downs are going to be better than the tie down points in the bed itself? I certainly don't see the structural support in either of those locations for a topheavy tractor of that weight. It will probably "work fine" until you crash.

 

I’m not sure if it will fit but weight definitely isn’t the issue. Back when I had fake book and was in a jd group a guy used a 1/2 ton truck with an 8’ bed to move his 1025 with the loader and bucket above the cab like the pic in this tread. People on here get some emotional about certain things, especially the ballast police.

No matter if you agree with the 1/2 guy I mentioned is one thing but others in that group repeated how you can’t put that much weight in a half ton blah blah blah. You can have a payload rating over 3K in certain “1/2 ton” trucks now.

if it fits my only concerns would be loading and unloading. Take the tailgate off for sure too.

 

You can always take the 3pt arms off to shorten the overall length some. That would only take a few second to pull those pins and drop the arms.

 

Have someone taking video.

 

why ? Is the pickup gonna break in half ?

 

Unless you have a loading dock at both places, my concern would be the angle of the ramps and high centering it.

I used to haul a 4 wheeler in the bed of the pickup and I hated the ramp angle and I had long ramps.

I'd also be concerned with the ramps tipping out. This has caused a lot of injuries. A mechanical foreman I knew was paralyzed loading a 4 wheeler when the ramp slid out from under him.

 

not worried about it but thanks

 

I too, am not a fan of pulling trailers. If I can get it in the bed of my truck, then the fewer wheels turning, the better. But, as I get older and my balance is diminishing, I'm finding it is easier and more importantly, safer to use a trailer for 2 reasons. 1. The load angle is greatly reduced and 2. The bed height is much lower. If you must load it in the truck, by all means take the tailgate off. Good luck and be safe! Jevers

 

@hanson1999
The moment you’ve been waiting for… (drum roll)
Width rear tires sidewall bulge to sidewall bulge is just under 49”, probably more like 48.5” (my tires are filled, no spacers)
Overall length without three points arms is just at 8’ from back of rear tires to front of frame (weight bracket) which is in front of front tires. Length from back of rear tires to front of loader QA bracket is about 8’ 8”. I didn’t have the bucket or forks on. The bucket is 53” wide so not sure how that would work out.
My estimation is it would fit, barely. Bring some butter to slide it in!

 

@hanson1999
The moment you’ve been waiting for… (drum roll)
Width rear tires sidewall bulge to sidewall bulge is just under 49”, probably more like 48.5” (my tires are filled, no spacers)
Overall length without three points arms is just at 8’ from back of rear tires to front of frame (weight bracket) which is in front of front tires. Length from back of rear tires to front of loader QA bracket is about 8’ 8”. I didn’t have the bucket or forks on. The bucket is 53” wide so not sure how that would work out.
My estimation is it would fit, barely. Bring some butter to slide it in!

THANK YOU !!!!

 

If you were thinking of doing like that photo with the loader over the cab, remember the loader might leak down over time if the hydraulic hoses are still attached.

 

Run a ratchet strap back to the ROPS, to support it.

 

I don't think I would drive 400 miles with the loader bucket hanging over the cab/windshield! Back it in and let the bucket hang off the back. Just my 2 cents. Jevers

 

You HAVE to post pictures, please!

 

I know your past looking for advice but I’m pretty sure the earth won’t stop turning if you put it in your truck. I personally would use a trailer but I’m also not a fan of dragging a trailer around.

 

Considerations for me would be upending front of pickup. When I ran a flatbed 100 years ago I’d sometimes would have to plant the stinger down when trying to overload the tilt body. I never was worried when cab was in air when loading just got to take it easy. I’d put some jacks at a point behind rear axle for good measure loading and unloading. I’d also pack tools to remove rear wheels to slide it in better. Skates, blocks, cribbing, chain, jacks, tire tools etc. I’d assume if wheels had to come off it would be when you get them up on tailgate, so I’d use some planks in bed over tailgate for support. Wheels probably would be transported on tailgate.
Edit: maybe only have to remove 1 wheel. Might get lucky and bed will spread apart a little. Like mentioned beforehand, butter up the sidewalls!

 

Your way over thinking hauling a 22-2500 pound tractor ! Front wheels in air ?? Lol WTF ???

 

Yea we’re gonna need some pictures and possibly a video of this.

 

Why ? I don’t get the excitement.

why ?

Pretty sure there would be more entertaining things to watch .. paint drying would prolly compare !