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#1 ·
I know... another darn Regen thread but I really did try to find my answer first. My soot level is up to 76 percent and it is not going into regen. It just keeps going up and up. I ran this machine for 5 hours straight on Sunday and I'm still at 76 percent. With the busy season approaching I'm getting scared it will end up in limp mode and at the dealer for week which I can't afford. So I tried doing a parked regen, I have done one before mainly just because it was a new feature and I wanted to try it. I let the tractor fast idle for a period of time to warm the engine and made sure all other parameters were correct. Pressed and held the button, it started flashing, pressed and held for 3 sec. It idled up and just like it should and all was well. This time I did everything the same, I let it fast idle for a period of time did all the other stuff then held the button for 5 sec...........and no flashing. I tried it again....no flashing, then again and again.....nothing. So I thought maybe it is not at 140 degrees, that is the only part I can't be sure of because it isn't digital. Problem is I couldn't get it any warmer. So I put a piece of card board in front of the radiator and kept trying at different intervals as the temperature increased. And still, hold the button.....and the light goes out and doesn't blink. So I crank the throttle up until the temp gauge is about an 1/8" from red. I idle it down to slow idle press and hold the button.......and nothing!:banghead: By this time I gave up, I pulled the card board and let it idle for a short time to cool down then shut it down. I am at a loss, why won't this darn thing regen!?

Any help would be appreciated. I talked to the sales guys at the International Farm Machinery Show in Louisville and they had no idea. One guy took my name and number well see what happens with that.
 
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#2 ·
and made sure all other parameters were correct.
But how do you know that the other parameters were correct? What parameters would those be?

I'd like to see the criteria that allows the computer to run this but I'm betting there are a lot of parameters that must be in range or "true" before this algorithm kicks off.
 
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#3 ·
Copy and pasted directly from the manual. I read it probably 20 times thinking I must be missing something. There is no command for zero ground speed that I know of. I assume it just means you must be stopped.

Before a parked exhaust filter cleaning can be completed, the following criteria must be met:

Set engine rpm at low idle.
Coolant temperature must be above 60 deg°C (140°F).
Transmission must be in neutral.
Zero ground speed commanded.
Park brake must be engaged.
PTO must be turned off.
 
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#4 · (Edited)
I'm not sure if this will help you but OFTEN I will be at a complete stop on my 3520 however the cluster will show my speed at .1 mph. Is it possible the computer "thinks" there is some ground speed taking place? I have shifted mine into neutral and the .1mph will still be displayed. If I tap the hydrostat pedals it will go to 0
 
#5 ·
I would not worry about it. Just let it do it's thing when it is ready. I have 374 hours on my 4066R and never even bother to check soot level. It just works. JD really has done a good job on the Tier IV emissions, except for the 1025R.

Dave
 
#7 ·
I thought as long as you are working the engine hard enough it wouldn't need to do a parked regen. If the unit doesn't see enough use/heat too burn off the DPF a parked regen is initiated. So if you need to work your tractor work it.
Right or wrong?
 
#8 · (Edited)
From what I have gathered with all the reading I have done on GTT regarding the regen, working the tractor harder will keep soot levels from increasing as quickly as you would from operating at low rpm's. The tractor will take care of the regen when needed with no noticeable decrease in ability to continue with the work your doing at time. I've read several that say a parked regen is not necessary and the majority who have initiated a park regen done so simply just to do it and see what it's about with their new machine. I see the concern from the op, my tractor is part of my income and like the op said, the busy time is approaching fast. The fact his tractor is not allowing him to complete a park regen and hasn't completed a regen while operating would concern me as well that the machine will go down right when it's needed most. Another concern I would have is a good portion of dealers around the country is already or soon will be slammed with work needing done by the large ag farmers and although some may want to deny it, from what I have seen the little guys don't take priority with our equipment needs when the dealers higher dollar customers are needing services completed. Often the little guy is put on the back burner or isn't given the attention he is needing at the time. I am sure there is a simple solution to why he isn't being able to complete the regen but I wouldn't want to drag my feet in finding it or playing the game "let's wait and see what happens". I would do the same if I was a dealer without doubt so looking at that from a very small scale side of the equation, I would want to make sure my tractor is good to go asap.
 
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#10 ·
I had a regen on my tractor when i was plowing at 20 degrees just a few weeks ago.. what happen the tractor felt slow. I looked at the dash and the regen light was on.
It stop plowing , put the tractor in park and neutral and went in side for 20 minuets until it was done.
It happens when ever the tractor wants to I guess. :laugh:
 
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I'll have time to mess with it again this evening. I'm going to check the ground speed and make sure it isn't saying .1. That is the only thing I can't say for sure that I looked at because I obviously wasn't moving.

I am a preventative maintenance freak so this just bugs the crap out of me. To just leave it alone is very difficult for me. Besides it can't hurt anything to do a parked Regen every once in while.

Big thanks to all the help thus far!
 
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#15 ·
On my 4066R there is a requirement that a certain number of hours must pass from the previous regen before you can initiate a regen. Sounds like that is your problem.

And, BTW, my tractor seems to stay at 76 % soot for several operating hours before the auto regen begins. Usually this happens when I am putting it up at the end of day, lol.
 
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I had no idea it wouldn't let you based off hours. I'll just about that is the issue or non issue I suppose. Man I love this forum!

Thanks everybody
 
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