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Deere Water Resistant Grease for 1025R

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I used to use it on my JX85 push mower and GS30 WB mower, but dont anymore. Nothing wrong with it, just found it wasnt necessary.
Now its SD Polyurea or HD Moly. I have a gun for each one, use the HD Moly for pins on the BH and Loader, Polyurea everywhere else, including the Exmark.
The water resistant stuff is fine, but not necessary unless you are worried about water washing it out. Since I used to get caught in the rain, and also wash the mowers down all the time, thats why I used it. Turned out the regular stuff doesnt wash out from just a wash now and then, unless you are really trying.
My dealer recommended the combo I have now. Or rather their setup guy did, who has been there for about 20 years now, and fixes the stuff the regular techs cant seem to, lol.

According to my 2025 manual, SD Polyurea or HD Moly are preferred.
They do say that wet or high speed conditions may require special grease.

You certainly wont hurt anything using it if thats what you want to do.
 
That’s out of the tractor manual. I believe the others are the same as yours.
 
JD also has a spray lubricant that they call Super Lube so they've built in some confusion factor. BTW - all previous versions of the 1025R manual going back to 2012 has the same "Super Lube" section listed with the grease. Which, I'm willing to bet refers to the Super Lube spray lubricant, not grease.

Where specifically in the manual do they call for Super Lube grease? Under the 50-hr section on the maintenance chart is listed the somewhat vague statement "Lubricate control valve and all grease points". But they don't bother to tell you where the "all grease points" are. All previous versions of the manual had little pictures showing you where all the grease zerks were. Both drive shaft lubrication sections call for John Deere multi-purpose grease. The only place I see Super Lube mentioned is in the "Lubricate 3-Point Hitch" section where it says "Lubricate ball joints (A) with the SUPER LUBE® lubricant". But in this case they actually mean Super Lube spray not grease.

While on the subject of Super Lube spray... most tractor manuals instruct to use Super Lube spray on the SCV linkage, the hood latch linkage, the 3-point hitch and various other places where a light lubricant is needed. I don't see any mention of this in the 1-series manuals.

Obviously this is another example where JD has updated and worded the manual in such a way as to make even the simple task of greasing the tractor complicated. :) It's no wonder folks would use the wrong lubricant.
Agreed. Deere isnt going to recommend a grease they dont make, when they make the correct grade grease already. To add to that, Super Lube, the lubricant manufacturer, has 7 different greases, so if its a grease, which one is it? They are pretty specific with what specific greases they recommend is my point there, and there is none for that except name.
Now, there is Super Lube, the spray, from Synco Chemical Corp., who is specifically mentioned in the manual (The 1 reference after SUPER-LUBE lubricant).

So which is it?
I dont know for sure what the heck Deere is after.
I do know that I already have the grease I am going to use, and that for spray lubes, I doubt the Super Lube is critical, though it is a very good one.
 
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I'm 100% sure Deere doesn't make any grease. They might contract someone to make a grease to a Deere specification if standard product specs are unsuitable (I doubt it, but maybe). Hell, they don't even make their own small gas or diesel engines yet engine building is a core competence! The business model for making your own lubricants makes no sense. Petroleum products are all about scale. They're not going to build a plant only to make a commodity product for themselves. There is certainly some money to be made in selling your own brand, but not in manufacturing it.

POSTSCRIPT: A quick Google shows that while Deere has engineers develop the specification for at least some products, the refining/blending is carried out by companies in the lubrication business like Chevron. They also capture some extra profit by not paying a license fee for API certification.

Al
So you really want to argue semantics here?
Deere makes nothing if you want to get down to it.
They dont make the steel they use, or the plastic either. Yet the end product carries their name. Even the engines you list have had their name only in the past, and some currently most likely.
Everything they "make" starts somewhere else. The things their name on them are either produced to their specifications, or already meets them.
Im pretty sure everyone knows that, but hey, argue away if it makes you feel better.

I admit its an assumption on my part that is does, but I have a hard time seeing any other reason for your above post, except to be contrary.
 
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With all due respect, you should probably consider switching to decaf.

Al
Could be, I am kind of blunt and say what Im thinking probably more than I should.

Maybe you are more of a literal kind of guy, which might explain your earlier post. :dunno:
 
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