405 feet, wow, are they charging Chinese tariffs on your water. :laugh:

 

405 feet, wow, are they charging Chinese tariffs on your water. :laugh:

or Water from Japan
:laugh:

 

Does your weight estimate include the weight of the water in the pipe?

Just looked it up out of curiosity. With a 1” pipe the weight of water is 0.34# per foot. So your 405’ run water weight will be 138#.

 

That was my first question. There is water in that pipe in addition to the weight of the pipe, pump hanging off the end of it and the wiring.

We had our well replaced a year and a half ago. It was interesting to see the well guy splice in the power line to the pump leads. He used 1/4" copper tubing like what you see for a fridge supply line for butt splices. He pushed one wire in from each side of about a 1" chunk crimping the entire length. He said it provides more crimp surface to prevent it from slipping. He didn't really insulate it. Just some electrical tape.

 

400+ foot wells are common in my area. I got very lucky with mine and hit 19gal/min @180feet. I believe the well was over drilled down to 200' for sedimentation.

I've been wondering how I would go about trying to replace my well pump when I need to. Pictures of your setup would be handy to see. Where did you get the tool for the pitless adaptor.

 

I've been wondering how I would go about trying to replace my well pump when I need to.

Our well is that deep,, when our pump went out due to lightning,, I called a local pump guy,,
he brought his 25 year old son,, his son pulled that pump, hand over hand,,

I asked the father if we should help, the father said "NOPE" the boy liked the exercise,,,:dunno:

So, 200 feet must not be too over-powering?

 

A total of 3 people pulled a 420 foot well. I pulled the t handle across the yard, the other 2 did the lifting at the case. He was about 50’ from a pond. My grandmother was on a river but also had to go to 400’.

 

I pulled my 350 ft well with a poly pipe up out of the well by myself. I did have 2 people laying out the 1 1/4" poly pipe as I pulled it up and a 3rd dealing with the wire. This one were trashing the steel pipe as it comes out with a "Saws-All" it has been in the well around 30 years! As it comes out I will lock a coupling in the holder till the cut is finished and just keep pulling up more to cut off. Were not sure how deep the pump is the report said the hole was drilled 405 feet not sure they set it that deep? Weighing the set up can tell me something before pulling it out or at least to be ready for. The original owners were pretty cheap and stupid from what I have saw so far. I just ripped out all the old stuff it was done so badly!! The boom can tip the tractor so it won't bend using it but I don't want the rear tires coming up on me in a lift.

 

The pump shouldn’t be on the bottom otherwise sediment would clog it fast and the pitless fitting would come apart.

I think you’ll be fine lift wise. Holding it while you reset the lift rope or chain is where I see potential issues.

I know one guy who dropped his and had to have the pipe and the pump drilled out. That driller was not happy to say the least, and his bill reflected that.

 

I had to rig a dual hydraulic bottle jack setup to get the old pitiless adapter broken loose on my son's 40 year old well. It was scary getting it to pop loose because I was worried about the thread strength on that initial 1" lift pipe. I couldn't get it with a 800 pound lift on the loader.

 

Initial breakout?

 

Our well story:

Help with our Well, Need advice please

 

The bottom of our irrigation well was at 2200’ which was needed to hit the top of the aquifer. The static level then rose to 320’. The impeller was put at 520’ which drew the water level down to about 450’ or more when we turned it on. We were a smaller sized pump for our area at just over 700g/m with a 100 hp motor. The water came out hot at about 120 F.

Our home well was at 280’. So much iron that if you filled a bucket you couldn’t see the bottom. Drank out of a hose all growing up. At age 12 I tasted my first bottled water and spit it up because it tasted so bad without the iron... lol


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Pumps Out and nothing broke doing the 360 ft lift

What fun a day got to pull a 360 ft deep steel pipe well with the tractor. It took a while had help and it weighed 598 lbs to start on the first pull and lighter as I cut 20 ft off each section at the couplings. I did the first set ups for a few hundred feet to test my welds but nothing was moved when the stops were set and I did all the pipe cutting. It was like a tree falling on a hinge all 20 ft section of pipe. Cut at the couplings so the puller had a good stopping point if the heavy pipe slipped and tried to drop all of it back down the well. All went well no surprises except my winch did not work so I used the boom and hydraulics to lift the pump. Worked out better in the end and did not trash my winch for 3 1/2 hours getting the pump out. My collar worked great it was harden steel so it cut into the 1" pipe for a good grab. I Made it big enough for 1 1/4" steel pipe if needed. The guy wanted to help and had a desk job he got burnt out going in and out of the culvert each time while I worked the tractor for 3 1/2 hours including set up. Once the collar was on the pipe it just slid down each time to the well head 6 ft under ground where I hooked on to the pipe for the lift. Boom was nice it protected the tractor when I gut the pipe to keep it going one way. Did not need to extend the boom to cut 20 ft at a time off.

 

Great job! I didn’t realize you were dealing with steel pipe - reading too fast again.

Glad it was a success - thanks for sharing the pics.

 

Great job! I didn’t realize you were dealing with steel pipe - reading too fast again.

Glad it was a success - thanks for sharing the pics.[/QUOTEI will be putting Poly Pipe back in so much easier to deal with too! First time I ever pulled a steel pipe there heavy! I have installed 10-12 poly pipe systems down to 350 ft over the years. Pulled about that many too with out a problem. This one the steel pipe was thin in places some spots were paper thin and I think blew threw near the pump? It had a Flow Valve 1/2 way down the well pipe it was rusted closed and full of grit! The one on the pump could not hold water anymore. The pump had been in there since the late 90s and was showing it's age. The pump had not run in several years but when it did the last time it trashed the pump not moving water and over heated the impellers to the point they could only push water a few feet anymore. The owner who was my helper had fun learning how to use a wrench and ratchet at the same time it was like pulling teeth watching him do stuff but I bit my tong and let him learn on his dollar that he was paying me to do the job. The reason for the orange rope and not all chain was to have some give/bounce on the pull and not jerk it while holding the sharp edge into the pipe for the pull.

 

I took off the Boom assembly and hooked up my Trench Ripping tool on the rear 3 point. I need to rip around 200 ft of trench for the wire to go in. I took a closer look at the Pulling Collar and there was not even a dent on the edge that contacted the well pipe to pull it out so being hard metal helped to hold the pipe. If I did this again I would weld up a set of jaws that held the pipe heavier the load tighter the fit in the wedge effect for the top of the 6" Well Casing and a place the wire can come thru as the pipe is pulled. If it had been a 400 ft pull and the water table not 10 ft from the top of the pipe another 150 lbs would be easy to add on. All 4 botls on the well cap were froze solid with rust. Had to use my electric drive impact and it busted them all off in the cap so it just fell apart on me but the well pipe was being supported off the 90 degree elbow and short pipe at the top for a web strap. Then I weighed the drop when it was hanging, bet it was double that to break the cap loose of the rusted pipe!

 

Good JOB glad it was a success. :bigthumb:

 

glad u got it out -ok:bigthumb:..............:munch:great pics too.:thumbup1gif:thanks!