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The 50hp is plenty for the drill, which recommends 40hp and requires 35hp. The 8 hours of planting will run it hard, which is necessary for the emissions to work well from what I have read. The 4000 series is attractive, as they have hydros and horsepower, but not the lifting capacity I desire. My carry overs from the 3025 would be the pallet forks and frame, my cat 1/2 quick hitch and rock rake. I have a 4’ JD rotary cutter that I will sell in favor of a larger unit.

The 3020 is 9000# with the loader, so the 5045E is about halfway between it and the 3025E in both horsepower and weight.

I appreciate the input. I a perfect world I could have several. As it is, I am really trying to get down to one, which means the 8N, 3025E and 3020 would need new homes.

 

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I agree with you to a certain degree. I installed the Pat's hitches on my 2012 5065E which will adapt the Cat. 2 to a Cat.1. The problem I had was the Cat. 2 arms on the 5065E were at an angle to fit the wider Cat.2 equipment. This put the pins in a bind with the balls in the lift arms. The Pat's hitch being adjustable cured this issue and I don't need bushings to adapt to Cat.1.
The Pat's hitch works as well as any 'Quick Hitch' when hooking to any 3 pt. equipment I have. Maybe even better.

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The good news is that I have Pat’s Hitch on my 3025E. The question is can these be adapted to the new tractor?

I also just measured and have a whopping .25” clearance for the exhaust on the lean-to.

 

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Just a thought here. (and if I'm wrong about any of this I'm good with someone correcting me)

Looking at the 520M loader it appears it comes with either the JD 500 series pin on or Global Carrier style.

Does you pallet fork frame have one or two sets of JDQA pins? If only one set of pins I don't think it will fit the JD 500 series JDQA.

Picture for reference. If I'm not mistaken, the top pins are for the 200 - 400 series loaders, bottom pins are for the 500 series.

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Fortunately, my pallet fork frame had the two JDQAs. I use these frequently and am glad it will work.

 

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The 5045E is physically a little smaller than the 3020, the wheelbase is 9" shorter and with a loader installed, weighs about 1250 pounds or so less. It is much closer to the 3020 than the 3025E.

A 5045E should handle the weight of the drill just fine on the 3-point as the loader documentation actually calls for more weight than that on the 3 point. The 3020 has about the same power as the 5075E, which is essentially the same tractor as the 5045E but with more turbo boost and a higher fueling rate to make more power. (All 5Es have a turbocharger.) If the 3020's engine loads up much when running the drill, you may want to get a higher HP version than the 5045E. If it doesn't, you should be fine.

A 3 cylinder 5E is a handy utility tractor. The MFWD version has a wider turning radius than the 2WD version, and a 2WD 5E has a pretty similar turning radius to the 3020. However, a MFWD 5E is still pretty handy unless you are getting into some areas where one wouldn't generally want to stick a full sized utility tractor.

The 520M loader on an MFWD 3 cylinder 5E is going to be pretty similar in capabilities to a 148 loader on a 3020 and it will have a joystick like the 3025E's loader.

The 5045E has the regular dry clutch synchronized TSS transmission, which in my opinion is a perfectly fine transmission for a "stick shift guy" as I am a "stick shift guy" too and like this transmission.

Bring in your tractor and engine serial numbers when getting filters and parts, else you might get the wrong one as Deere made several generations of 5045E and even made running changes in a specific model year range. I had heard some of the earlier ones had some issues but I haven't heard much for issues with the 2018-2022 units. Mine is a 2020 and has been very solid.

You can easily run category 1 implements on a 5E, just use bushings on the pins. I have quite a few category 1 implements I run with mine with bushings, and have no issues with them.

Thanks for the review. This week I have put a lot of hours on the 3020 and 3025E as I am removing a section of old asphalt driveway and having to haul the debris to the other side of our property. The 3020 is a pretty large tractor, and seems one size up from the 5000E series. The way the rear wheels are set, it barely fits on the bridge over our creek, which is 96". As you noted, the horse power is similar to a 5075E/5083E (70 PTO). When I was planting, it never once felt underpowered and I never had to push it. However, I did manage to get stuck at the bottom of a field and had to disconnect the drill and pull it out with the 3025E (that was my wife's first time on the 3025E). The loader on mine is actually a 46A, which I have corrected in my signature. It works well, but is slow and lacks the joystick. I do like that ithe 3020 starts quick, even in winter, and has plenty of power for what I need. The purchase was a stroll down memory lane for me, as I grew up with 3020s and 4020s. What I don't like is that it is a little larger than I need (with the loader I am near 10,000#). I believe the 5 series will be right for the property. I also considered a 4052M, but those are made of unobtainiam based on a review of inventory.

Here is a picture of the 3020 with a load picked up by my game camera.

 

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Thanks for the insights. These discussions are helpful as I am not one to rush into a purchase, and this would likely be my last tractor. Still weighting the pros and cons of the 5045E vs. other options (including keeping what I have and finding a place for the 3020, which is currently outside with a coffee can over the exhaust).

 

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So far I have not pulled the trigger on the 5045E. I put 24 hours on the 3025E last week and it is a very user friendly tractor. I am considering keeping it along with the much larger 3020, which has a loader and is a diesel. I appreciate the feedback which was helpful.

 

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Although it has been 14 months since I started this thread, I will be purchasing a new 5045E this week. I’ll be trading in the 3025E that has served me well for over six years. The new tractor is a new 2022 model, MFWD with 520M loader, so the full new tractor warranty is in effect. While the price is $2000 higher than I agreed upon last year, my trade-in is $2000 more than the dealer offered year. What is different is that this year I now have a barn for the tractor!

Once again, I appreciate the responses to my original post.

 

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Congrats on the new tractor!
Would love to see some pics when you get it home.
👍

Here is one from the dealer. R1s all around. Primary use will be 7’ blade, NT drill, Utility work around the farm and brushing.

 

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I have never seen a 5045E/5050E in the US model with the PowerShift. The sync shuttle has been around and proven. The PR is available on the 5055E and higher horsepower 5 series.

 

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The deal is finalized. Here is a picture of our new tractor in the shop getting ready for the 520M loader install. Some of the early additions will be a hydraulic top link (needed to better control the depth of the 3-point no-till drill) and a multiplier for the rear hydraulics.

 

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Beautiful machine, I'm looking forward to my own new equipment in Sept.

What drill do you have?

Forgive the ignorance, what is a rear hydraulics multiplier?

I have a Saya 505 from Tar River. It’s actually a pretty slick 5’ drill for the money. They also make a 507 model (7’) that would be perfect for this tractor—however—I’ll continue with the 5’, especially as it is ideal for tighter spaces, and it is paid for . The hydraulic multiplier allows three sets of remotes from the one factory set. Here is a link to the supplier, Summit Hydraulics.

 

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Just some food for thought. Have you considered the JD sunshade? It makes a world of difference on those sunny hot days in the field. While I still prefer running my 5225 cab tractor with A/C on real hot days the sunshade makes my 5065 bearable and much more pleasant when the sun is bearing down on you. Well worth the additional expense.

The branches and trees around our place are why I don’t have a cab tractor—therefore, if I get a shade for planting and mowing days, it will need to be something that comes off easily, such as an umbrella shade.

In other news, I took delivery of the tractor today! My “maiden run” was to the gas station 4 miles down the road, as the dealer forgot to fill up the tank—at least they promised to reimburse me for the fill, which was 18 gallons.

As anticipated, the tractor “feels” like it fits right between the 3 series and the 3020. Size wise, I was surprised it was a closer in size to the 3020 than I originally thought, as it “feels“ much smaller.

 

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The sock is to prevent the highway air flow from turning the turbocharger without oil pressure from the engine. This particular tractor may not have a turbo, but the driver might cover it just in case.

It has a turbo, so the sock makes sense.

 

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I guess this will close out a thread started over one year ago. It’s been a fun journey, and I ended up with the very model I originally had under consideration.

I’ll likely start a “annual impressions” of the tractor much like I did with the 3025E, which serves to help future owners of new or used tractors learn about the model under consideration.

I appreciate the insights of the forum as I considered several options. The “tipping point” was wanting a larger tractor for the no-till drill and the ability to get a 7’ or 8’ rotary cutter with 2” or more cutting capacity.