[cc1999]

We can probably "hook" you up...
Yes that is one half of the connector for the 3rd function.
Once you get it in hand, send me some detailed pictures.

Thanks Kenny will do.
Expectations are about two weeks out before the 5125R gets delivered.

 

[mo1]

I heard the same thing on another channel from a guy who bought a new 5M. I think it was something along the line of a revamping and possibly a much larger HP offering when they reintroduce them late this year or next year. I know Deere likes to give people a lot of options, but if they do reintroduce it with a 165 HP or something similar it seems to me they are starting to press into the 6 series range.

The rumor is that the 5R was discontinued as it was a slow seller due to its high price. Most of the agricultural production in my area are cow-calf operations and hay. I don't work for a dealership or Deere & Co. so I don't have any inside information, but based on what is on dealer lots, what turns over on dealer lots in this region, and what is out working on farms, the vast majority of new Deere ag tractors sold around here are 5 and 6 series machines, namely 5Es, small/medium frame 6Ms, and a few small/medium frame 6Rs. The 5 series sized machines are used to do things like pull hay rakes and feed bales, so they don't need to be very fancy- very few 5Ms sell and I've seen exactly one 5R on a lot. The 6 series machines pull hay cutters and balers, and thus are fancier than the 5 series machines that are purchased.

Currently, Deere doesn't rate the 4045 engine used in the larger 5 series machines above 145 HP in any tractor application. A 165 HP machine would thus be using the 6068 engine which is noticeably longer and currently isn't used in a machine smaller than the medium-frame 6 series. Deere could increase the specific output of the 4045 engine as the 6068 is simply a 4045 with two extra cylinders, and the 6068 makes up to 300 HP in some applications with a much more sophisticated sequential turbocharging/intercooling/aftercooling setup than any 4045 currently has. I don't know if they would be willing to do that, but certainly making a 5R up to about 145 HP would be a possibility.

 

[cc1999]

Thanks mo1, sounds very plausible.
It will be interesting to see if it returns with updates or if it’s truely been canceled all together.

‘I looked at the possibilities of the 120 Hp 6110R 6R, but the price really gets up there with those.
Also, I am not sure 6 series has the more compact maneuverability this 5R has.

Still seems a little odd a machine introduced in 2017 is already gone, or even gone for a redesign or relaunch.

The newest 5M does now have some of the R features like power quad transmissions in the 90hp+.

My hope is this new to me 2018 5R can really bridge or merge the capabilities of the two I am trading for it.

There is also talks of a new 3&4R series machines coming to market in next year or two. That could be pretty interesting as well.

 

[mo1]

The small frame 6 series machines like the 6R 110 are noticeably larger than the 5 series machines, which is why the people here running round balers pick a 6120M over a 5125R for roughly the same price. The extra size and weight gives noticeably more authority to running a heavier load like a silage baler. The smaller 6 cylinder blue machine I've driven that's pretty close in size and capabilities to a medium frame 6 series (e.g. 6155M) is far less maneuverable than the several 5 series machines I've run, probably about the difference between your 4R and your 5M if they are set up similarly (e.g. both cabbed and with MFWD.)

 

[Hustllyswat]

I am trying to determine how this auto clutch command quad trans would be compared to operating my Hydro trans in my 4R.
In terms of functional use with loader work and maneuvering in tight spaces that sort of thing.

The tractor I am looking at is a 350 hour 2018 model.

 

[cc1999]

I am trying to determine how this auto clutch command quad trans would be compared to operating my Hydro trans in my 4R.
In terms of functional use with loader work and maneuvering in tight spaces that sort of thing.

The tractor I am looking at is a 350 hour 2018 model.

I can tell you more in a couple weeks. Right now, I am going off what I have seen in YouTube videos from owners as well as Deere videos. With regards to the Trans, the video I linked was still the best I have found showing how it works.

The power shift , the auto clutch and. the BCD multi-range mode were the main highlights that were enlightening features for me. We had power shift 4650, 4755 Deere’s back in the 80 and 90s on the farm, but I had never seen an auto clutch demonstrated till that owner review video I ran across. Plus the power reverser was mentioned can be thumb activated to change direction with the joystick. Having worked with my 5Ms for the past couple years, I recognized where those features should really speed up loader work. Making it, I think pretty similar in speed to my 4066R e-hydro trans machine.

That frame integrated oil pan, for the shortest possible wheelbase, which was how they engineered the 5R to have super tight 12ft turning radius. Another point of interest for me looking to merge one of my 5Ms and my 4R into one machine.

 

[Tractor Tim]

Congratulations! Quite a nice step up. The 5R team in Augusta REALLY like(d) the 5R team based on the discussions they shared. I'm guessing it was just a bit too expensive/extravagant for most customers in that HP range. In other words, PERFECT for you!!

 

[cc1999]

Congratulations! Quite a nice step up. The 5R team in Augusta REALLY like(d) the 5R team based on the discussions they shared. I'm guessing it was just a bit too expensive/extravagant for most customers in that HP range. In other words, PERFECT for you!!

Thanks Tim.
So do think the 5R is gone for good or do think it's coming back with some updates and the 5R 90,110,125 type name like the new 6Rs.
I did see a video mentioning the 5M was now available with the corner post instrument cluster from the 5R and 6R series and so on up the scale.
So, I am thinking Deere maybe trying to bridge that gap with making most of the discontinued 5R features available to order on the 5M, only I have not seen any mention of the command arm on the 5M, which I think I am really going to enjoy having the command arm, I have some neck issues, and can't crane my neck around to see behind me worth a darn anymore, so the added swivel with the command arm should be really nice for my needs. I hope it is anyway.

One feature that I am not sure about is rather the new 5M has, that super tight turning radius the 5R was marketed with, where they incorporated the oil pan into the frame to get that super tight wheelbase and turning radius.

 

[Tractor Tim]

Thanks Tim.
So do think the 5R is gone for good or do think it's coming back with some updates and the 5R 90,110,125 type name like the new 6Rs.
I did see a video mentioning the 5M was now available with the corner post instrument cluster from the 5R and 6R series and so on up the scale.
So, I am thinking Deere maybe trying to bridge that gap with making most of the discontinued 5R features available to order on the 5M, only I have not seen any mention of the command arm on the 5M, which I think I am really going to enjoy having the command arm, I have some neck issues, and can't crane my neck around to see behind me worth a darn anymore, so the added swivel with the command arm should be really nice for my needs. I hope it is anyway.

One feature that I am not sure about is rather the new 5M has, that super tight turning radius the 5R was marketed with, where they incorporated the oil pan into the frame to get that super tight wheelbase and turning radius.

Yes, 5R turning radius is/was amazing. I get the impression that 5R may be gone for awhile. ...but not solid insider info here.

 

[cc1999]

Since the Deere website has seemed to have wiped out a lot of the details and brochure type info on the 5125R, I was doing some research and found some good info that I would like to plug into this thread mostly for future reference for myself, but also just in case anyone else is interested in learning more about the 5Rs.

 

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[AKfish]

I've been looking at the 5R's since they came on the market. As a small hay farmer and horse owner, the 5R's had/have most of the features that I wished for with either my 5115M tractor or the 5075E that I just bought last year.
Powershift transmission, pressure-flow hydraulics, electro-hydraulic SCV's and loader SCV's, panorama cab, bluetooth electronics.... every bell and whistle!
What I did not appreciate was the cost! To a lesser extent, I did not like the short wheelbase. IMO, the reason that Deere offered the 5R with the cab suspension as well as the front drive suspension (ILS) is to counter the rough ride that is the downside of the short wheelbase. I can appreciate the engineering behind shortening the 5M by 4 inches to arrive at the 5R dimension. Incredible turning radius!
I have small, irregular hayfields. And, the corral area that keeps our horses happy is approx. 85ft x 110ft. I clean snow out of that corral ALL winter long with the 5115M! And, it takes some ACTIVE driving to keep from wrecking the furniture while plowing and hauling manure-snow off to the compost pile.
That said, the 5R has nearly the same wheelbase as my 2017 5075E. And, mowing and baling hay any faster than about 4 mph will get you a sore back from all the bucking and jumping across my small acre hay fields!
I have driven the older, JD 6000 Premium series tractors. For a small hay operation, those tractors with a 94-95 inch wheelbase were the cat's jammies - IMO.
Just happens, that's the same wheelbase that the yr2020+ 6M 110-120hp tractors have. The 6110M-120M are designed with a sloped hood for improved loader visibility as well.
Of course, those 6M's are also right in the same price range as the 5R's.
IMO-that is where JD messed up with positioning the 5R's in the marketplace. Head to head, many producers are gonna opt to the heavier, longer wheelbase, 6M.
My apologies for the long post. AKfish

 

[cc1999]

I've been looking at the 5R's since they came on the market. As a small hay farmer and horse owner, the 5R's had/have most of the features that I wished for with either my 5115M tractor or the 5075E that I just bought last year.
Powershift transmission, pressure-flow hydraulics, electro-hydraulic SCV's and loader SCV's, panorama cab, bluetooth electronics.... every bell and whistle!
What I did not appreciate was the cost! To a lesser extent, I did not like the short wheelbase. IMO, the reason that Deere offered the 5R with the cab suspension as well as the front drive suspension (ILS) is to counter the rough ride that is the downside of the short wheelbase. I can appreciate the engineering behind shortening the 5M by 4 inches to arrive at the 5R dimension. Incredible turning radius!
I have small, irregular hayfields. And, the corral area that keeps our horses happy is approx. 85ft x 110ft. I clean snow out of that corral ALL winter long with the 5115M! And, it takes some ACTIVE driving to keep from wrecking the furniture while plowing and hauling manure-snow off to the compost pile.
That said, the 5R has nearly the same wheelbase as my 2017 5075E. And, mowing and baling hay any faster than about 4 mph will get you a sore back from all the bucking and jumping across my small acre hay fields!
I have driven the older, JD 6000 Premium series tractors. For a small hay operation, those tractors with a 94-95 inch wheelbase were the cat's jammies - IMO.
Just happens, that's the same wheelbase that the yr2020+ 6M 110-120hp tractors have. The 6110M-120M are designed with a sloped hood for improved loader visibility as well.
Of course, those 6M's are also right in the same price range as the 5R's.
IMO-that is where JD messed up with positioning the 5R's in the marketplace. Head to head, many producers are gonna opt to the heavier, longer wheelbase, 6M.
My apologies for the long post. AKfish

Thanks for the info.
I did try and spec and price a new 6M. I was coming in with a high spec 6M hitting close to $200K.
New 5R 2022 listings I had found were 135-155, I am sure you could have pushed a 5R up as high as $170K.
Now what I had seen on the used side,I noticed the gap between them did seem y]to get quite a bit closer.
Were you thinking new or used in comparison. Since the 5R was canceled for 2023, I was not able to compare 100% apples to apples, with the build and price tool.

 

[cc1999]

The 5R made it to my dealer yesterday, finally got yo see it in person today. Got to set in it. Start it, mess with the controls . We made a fresh list of changes and upgrades for it. A few things to look into next week.

Really looking forward to getting her home and really tying it out.

 

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