[AKfish]

Just some first impressions.

This 5R is truly a totally different machine, unlike any I have had before.

The hydraulics are so silky smooth, it’s really incredible how smooth the loader and hydraulics are on this machine.

‘The ride is extremely smooth in comparisons to my 5Ms, and night and day smoother then my 4R was, and I had My 4R setup to ride about as smooth as any 4R can possibly ever ride.
This 5R with cab suspension just blows the others away.

Steering, just wow, no more weak 4R power steering, The 5Ms power steering was good, but this 5R is just a step up in steering smoothness. Still no complaints about my old 5M steering, just noticed the 5R just little extra.

Love the rear camera system I had added, there was concern I was not going to be able to see the drawbar once I had the I-match and power top link installed. By mounting the camera off center like we did, I was pleasantly surprised it worked and I can see the drawbar.

The visibility of both loader and 3pt hitch are all substantially improved.

The rear 3pt setup is just surprising in just how much range of motion of the hitch is noticeably increased over the 5M .

Just some first impressions.

This 5R is truly a totally different machine, unlike any I have had before.

The hydraulics are so silky smooth, it’s really incredible how smooth the loader and hydraulics are on this machine.

‘The ride is extremely smooth in comparisons to my 5Ms, and night and day smoother then my 4R was, and I had My 4R setup to ride about as smooth as any 4R can possibly ever ride.
This 5R with cab suspension just blows the others away.

Steering, just wow, no more weak 4R power steering, The 5Ms power steering was good, but this 5R is just a step up in steering smoothness. Still no complaints about my old 5M steering, just noticed the 5R just little extra.

Love the rear camera system I had added, there was concern I was not going to be able to see the drawbar once I had the I-match and power top link installed. By mounting the camera off center like we did, I was pleasantly surprised it worked and I can see the drawbar.

The visibility of both loader and 3pt hitch are all substantially improved.

The rear 3pt setup is just surprising in just how much range of motion of the hitch is noticeably increased over the 5M .

The improved hydraulics were one of the biggest options that drew my interest in the 5R’s. That in conjunction with the EH controls for the loader and the rear SCV’s was a real big deal compared to the 5M’s.
Of course, having those power shift gears and the 3-speed PTO was really more icing on the cake.
Still think mowing hay @ 5mph or faster without cab suspension or TLS could be a less desirable feature of the 5R’s, though.
I enjoy hearing your experience with the R’s. You might convince me yet to take the plunge!
Then again…I did notice that the 6M cab @ Nebraska test was 66dB vs 75dB for the 5R.

 

[ttazzman]

The improved hydraulics were one of the biggest options that drew my interest in the 5R’s. That in conjunction with the EH controls for the loader and the rear SCV’s was a real big deal compared to the 5M’s.
Of course, having those power shift gears and the 3-speed PTO was really more icing on the cake.
Still think mowing hay @ 5mph or faster without cab suspension or TLS could be a less desirable feature of the 5R’s, though.
I enjoy hearing your experience with the R’s. You might convince me yet to take the plunge!
Then again…I did notice that the 6M cab @ Nebraska test was 66dB vs 75dB for the 5R.

improved hydraulics ...is why i asked if it has the Open Center hydraulics or the optional PFC hydraulics ...im very curious as to the end result presented by the PFC hydraulics

 

[cc1999]

improved hydraulics ...is why i asked if it has the Open Center hydraulics or the optional PFC hydraulics ...im very curious as to the end result presented by the PFC hydraulics

Yes it’s PFC.
Sorry I had meant to look that up earlier.
Below is the post about this machines specs.

Any 5R owners out there have any advise or tips on what options to look for or options you wish you had bought or wish you had not bought?

Also would love some info on how the Command quad 16 and or Command quad 8 works in the real world uses.
I found this video yesterday, seems pretty slick, I think I would really enjoy that auto clutch feature.

I am trying to determine how this auto clutch command quad trans would be compared to operating my Hydro trans in my 4R.
In terms of functional use with loader work and maneuvering in tight spaces that sort of thing.

The tractor I am looking at is a 350 hour 2018 model.

Was there any major changes in more recent years that I should consider spending the extra bucks to go with a new one or newer model year?

Here the specs of the 2018 5125R I am looking at.
2018 John Deere 5125R with 540R MSL 3F loader. 16/16 CommandQuad transmission 40K, Premium Cab with CommandArm, Premium cloth air suspension seat, instructional seat, telescoping RH/LH mirrors, corner post exhaust, PFC hydraulic system, (3)- EH rear SCV's, (3)- mid EH SCV's, 3-speed PTO 540/540E/1000, remote hydraulic fender controls, telescoping draft links with ball ends, RH/LH stabilizer bars, 460/85R30 rear Firestone tires, 320/85R24 front Firestone tires, MFWD w/o suspension, leather wrapped steering wheel, mechanical cab suspension, Cold Weather Package, LED upgrade package, Loader Ready package with 3-SCV's. Just in!

• LOADER
  Yes
• OPTIONS
  Loader Ready
• 16F/16R CommandQuad Manual (40k)
• Premium Panorama Roof Cab with Command Arm (Requires PFC hydraulics and EH SCVs)
• Premium Cloth Air Suspension Seat
• Instructional Seat with Seatbelt
• Mirror Telescopic LH and RH
• Deluxe Corner Post Exhaust
• PFC Hydraulic System with 117 l/min (30.9 gpm) hydraulic pump
• 3 Proportional EH Deluxe Stackable Rear SCVs
• 3 Deluxe Mid EH SCV with Electronic Joystick Control
• Three Speed PTO - 540/540E/1000
• Electrohydraulic (EH) with remote LH fender control
• Telescoping Draft Links with Ball Ends - Category 2
• LH Only Adjustable Lift Links
• Mechanical Center Link with Ball Ends - Category 2
• LH and RH Stabilizer Bar
• 18.4R30 (460/85R30) R1W (Firestone)
• No Rear Tire Brand Preference
• MFWD Front Axle without Suspension
• 12.4R24 (320/85R24) R1W (Firestone)
• No Front Tire Brand Preference
• Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
• Mechanical Cab Suspension
• Cold Weather Package
• FULL LED Package
• Loader ready package - 3 function Electrical Midstack SCVs
• 540R Front End Loader

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[ttazzman]

Yes it’s PFC.
Sorry I had meant to look that up earlier.
Below is the post about this machines specs.

they come both ways.....those PFC hydraulics are a major optional upgrade to the std open center hyd....i think the PFCs flows 50% more than Std OC....and about 2-3 times what the 4series flows......i bet you can run all kinds of hydraulic motor implements if you ever need to

 

[AKfish]

they come both ways.....those PFC hydraulics are a major optional upgrade to the std open center hyd....i think the PFCs flows 50% more than Std OC....and about 2-3 times what the 4series flows......i bet you can run all kinds of hydraulic motor implements if you ever need to

Per Nebraska testing the 125R flow rate @ 1 SCV under max power was 33.3% greater than the 115M. 28.2 GPM vs 18.8GPM. The higher flow rate is pushing into Skid-steer country.

 

[cc1999]

Per Nebraska testing the 125R flow rate @ 1 SCV under max power was 33.3% greater than the 115M. 28.2 GPM vs 18.8GPM. The higher flow rate is pushing into Skid-steer country.

Nice!
I was thinking after reading TTAZZMANs comments about the PFC option, he got me curious if it wasn’t likely to be getting into skid steer territory.
Very interesting Stuff!

 

[JD4052M]

Per Nebraska testing the 125R flow rate @ 1 SCV under max power was 33.3% greater than the 115M. 28.2 GPM vs 18.8GPM. The higher flow rate is pushing into Skid-steer country.

Nice!
I was thinking after reading TTAZZMANs comments about the PFC option, he got me curious if it wasn’t likely to be getting into skid steer territory.
Very interesting Stuff!

That’s impressive! I spend a lot of time in 333E and 333G skidsteers at work running a brush mulcher on high flow. On a 333G standard flow is 25 gpm, high flow is 41 gpm. I’m impressed that the 5125R has that much flow. Definitely getting into skidsteer territory. I might add that the 333E/333G were the biggest skidsteers JD made until they introduced the new 335G at Conexpo this year.

 

[ttazzman]

Per Nebraska testing the 125R flow rate @ 1 SCV under max power was 33.3% greater than the 115M. 28.2 GPM vs 18.8GPM. The higher flow rate is pushing into Skid-steer country.

from 18.8gpm to 28.2gpm ....is a 50% increase in my book .... ...either way its a big jump



FWIW ....my old skidloader (high flow) specs at 32gpm....std flow would be 20gpm for it.......very close to the tractor numbers

 

[AKfish]

from 18.8gpm to 28.2gpm ....is a 50% increase in my book .... ...either way its a big jump



FWIW ....my old skidloader (high flow) specs at 32gpm....std flow would be 20gpm for it.......very close to the tractor numbers

Yep…my bad. Should have divided the difference by the 115M GPM not the 125R.
There’s a new, ‘22 5100R in Mitchell, SD with EVERY option. Needs a loader, though.
C & B start out real high on everything! Might stop and have a look see this next month or so.

 

[cc1999]

Took it out this morning did a little playing around got it ready to work.
It stormed last night so way to wet to do much.
Now that the 4R is gone, I think I now need to upgrade my Maschio flail to one made for these bigger tractors Hp.
I started talking to Maschio dealer in Oklahoma Friday. I needed to dig the old one out to get him some pics.
‘Only used 2 seasons, but it‘s rated for a max HP of 60 or 70 hp, I could probably get away with using it on the 5Rs but, it’s a little small and my reach would be hindered quite a bit. I might be able to pull off putting it on my 3046R.

‘So started out putting forks on the 5R
‘And getting the flail out of storage.

 

[cc1999]

After that I put the camera system to work, hooked up the land plane as well as swapped out the forks for the old 84” bucket from one of the 5Ms. Getting her ready to start working on the giant pile of dirt I had dug out of my pond. Which is still pretty much dried up, except for the deepest areas I had dug out over the past few months.

 

[cc1999]

I am also really happy offsetting the camera, allows me to see the draw bar even though I have a power top link and I-match on there. Not perfect but can see it. Yea 👍

 

[AKfish]

Took it out this morning did a little playing around got it ready to work.
It stormed last night so way to wet to do much.
Now that the 4R is gone, I think I now need to upgrade my Maschio flail to one made for these bigger tractors Hp.
I started talking to Maschio dealer in Oklahoma Friday. I needed to dig the old one out to get him some pics.
‘Only used 2 seasons, but it‘s rated for a max HP of 60 or 70 hp, I could probably get away with using it on the 5Rs but, it’s a little small and my reach would be hindered quite a bit. I might be able to pull off putting it on my 3046R.

‘So started out putting forks on the 5R
‘And getting the flail out of storage.
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[AKfish]

Took it out this morning did a little playing around got it ready to work.
It stormed last night so way to wet to do much.
Now that the 4R is gone, I think I now need to upgrade my Maschio flail to one made for these bigger tractors Hp.
I started talking to Maschio dealer in Oklahoma Friday. I needed to dig the old one out to get him some pics.
‘Only used 2 seasons, but it‘s rated for a max HP of 60 or 70 hp, I could probably get away with using it on the 5Rs but, it’s a little small and my reach would be hindered quite a bit. I might be able to pull off putting it on my 3046R.

‘So started out putting forks on the 5R
‘And getting the flail out of storage.
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What would it cost to have a front mount PTO/3point installed on the 5R? You run the flail from the front of the tractor! With offset you could clean up the road shoulders to look like putting greens!

 

[cc1999]

What would it cost to have a front mount PTO/3point installed on the 5R? You run the flail from the front of the tractor! With offset you could clean up the road shoulders to look like putting greens!

What about loader mounted hydraulic brush cutter?
Be a lot easier to take On and off as needed.
‘I have 48” for my 2 and 3 series machines.

 

[AKfish]

Can’t offset a loader mount brush cutter that I’m aware of. But…to do a real great job - you’d need the tilt function, too.
That said, along fence lines…close to building perimeters. Having a front mount with offset…cat’s jammies, there!

 

[cc1999]

Can’t offset a loader mount brush cutter that I’m aware of. But…to do a real great job - you’d need the tilt function, too.
That said, along fence lines…close to building perimeters. Having a front mount with offset…cat’s jammies, there!

Dont know anything about these, but if you guys are right about having skid steer level hydraulics, got me thinking about hydraulic powered loader attachments.

 

[ttazzman]

Dont know anything about these, but if you guys are right about having skid steer level hydraulics, got me thinking about hydraulic powered loader attachments.

i dont know anything about them but i am seeing several of these style mowers pop up around here...skid steer mounted and backhoe type mounting arm ....seems like it would be a solid way of doing things.....they have had mower heads for excavators for years.....

reading this thread is going to cost me money in the long run i suspect LOL

 

[cc1999]

Yep…my bad. Should have divided the difference by the 115M GPM not the 125R.
There’s a new, ‘22 5100R in Mitchell, SD with EVERY option. Needs a loader, though.
C & B start out real high on everything! Might stop and have a look see this next month or so.

I think I had that 5100R on my list too.
when I was shopping, I didnt really care on the exact HP, I was looking at all the 5Rs 90-125Hp, I was mainly sorting by hours, options., and locations nearest to me.
I was going to call on it next had my Texas deal not worked out.
It looked like a really nice spec 5R. 👍

 

[Devils10acres]

This is a stupid question but why is the greater hydraulic flow and capacity nearly always limited to skidsteers and excavators? It’s not like a tractor doesn’t have the space or the need.

Stupid question #2, Is the purpose of a hydraulic top link only to lift something connected to the 3 points or maybe to enable adjustments for connection while in the seat?