[ttazzman]

Can you expand - much better results in what ways, areas.

zero ...leaks with tireject tires over time old or new or bead

reoccurring and new leaks in bead and tread with slime over time (got a gal sitting on shelf unused)

parts of our land has black locust trees (large thorns) will pucture tires,break off in tires then rot away over time producing leaks that need resealing over time if that makes sense

both fixed initial leaks

 

[Treefarmer]

Several of you here have stated not to use Slime. I would like to ask why you say that, and learn what products you use. I have used Slime many times over the years and have never had a problem with it. If there is a better product that works better and doesn’t cause any problems down the road. I would appreciate your input to learn what that product is and why you feel it is better. I do understand that some of the the tire shops hate Slime. when changing tires. Using a better or higher quality product then what i currently use is always a good thing to do. Your input is much appreciated. 🐺

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I use Liquitube which has proven to be very good for me and many others. It has at least two advantages over Slime. It will seal larger holes permanently and should you change the tire, a simple water hose will clean off the rim. No scraping, no brushing- just squirt it with a hose.

There are other similar products on the market. I'm not knocking those as they may very well be just as good. My experience is and was with Liquitube both as a customer and at one point as a wholesale distributor in my work. We never had a customer issue with Liquitube unless the customer failed to follow directions and didn't install the recommended amount. We sold to farmers, equipment dealers, tire shops and lawn and garden equipment shops. Some of the lawn and garden folks routinely installed it in mowers during the new sales process because for a few bucks they didn't have a customer coming in saying the tires were no good because it had a nail puncture. Tire shops used and sold it because a dang lawnmower tire could take 20 minutes to pull off, fix and replace and customers didn't want to pay what should be charged. So they could install Liquitube in 5 minutes and not only was the tire fixed but basically puncture proofed. Happy customers, happy shop owners.

Others on here have their own favorites and good for them. I don't pretend to have tried alternatives except for Slime which I have used in an emergency. Slime was messy and I still had to have a tire fixed but Slime and a 12v compressor got me home one night although I had to stop a few times to pump the tire up. If I had Liquitube with me, it would have been one stop to install and pump up a tire. (It's not recommended for passenger car tires but ok on SUV/truck tires of 10 ply or heavier as well as off road tires of all types.)

 

[SeatTime]

After the tire is back on the rim I would use the old starter fluid 💥 RAPID INFLATION 💥 method. That's the fun way.

 

[dixie460]

After the tire is back on the rim I would use the old starter fluid 💥 RAPID INFLATION 💥 method. That's the fun way.

I was gonna include that method in my previous post but due to the potential for injury or damage, I did not suggest it.

Me personally, on my own equipment, oh heck yeah lol

 

[Devils10acres]

Must have steered terrible with the tire in that position.

IMO, with the tire in the position it is, I would buy a tube at a tire shop or implement dealer. Do not buy from eBay or Amazon as they are very cheap China - - - p. The hard part is done getting the tire off the rim far enough to install a tube. Putting tire back on is easy, use a little dish soap around the bead. Tire will not be an issue with tube installed. I use to use Green Slime and other sealants, but not anymore and I wouldn’t recommend them eithe.

I was wondering why it wasn’t responsive to steering normally. The grass was over 3 ft high (not anymore now) so I couldn’t see it. The photo doesn’t show it but the whole rim is inside the tire so I cant see it being too hard to put a tube inside. The tire bead is chewed a bit, I can’t say if it would affect sealing but I would think a tube eliminates that worry.
By the way, that was the shop’s plan yesterday - to put a tube inside. It would be a great idea if the tractors had tubes or at least as an option on the front wheels simply for the force they are subject to at times.

I want to address the tire slime stuff. I used the stuff a few times, once in a rear tire on my old zero turn mower, a car tire that was sitting on a flat tire stored and a cargo van tire. None were completely successful - at least not to the point the problem went away for good. Some time ago that stuff took a price jump, it’s not the “cheap fix” anymore.

 

[Bad Ronald]

With the tube installed you won't have this problem again. When I had a problem with a front passenger side tire chronically popping off the rim I blamed aggressive steering with a full FEL. Why it happened on one side only I cannot guess. The tube was an easy, permanent fix.

FWIW- I realize there is no "passenger side" on a 1023e. I use the term universally to describe the righthand side of myself, the dog, a cow, etc. Keeps the Gen-x guys shaking their heads.

 

[Devils10acres]

Outcome: Tube $33
Labor $57
Total $90

 

[ttazzman]

Outcome: Tube $33
Labor $57
Total $90

I had a tube I owned put in a heavy tire a couple of months ago.....it was no charge....I did remove the tire and take it in......repairs and rotations on vehicle tires are free while you wait also....57$ labor seems preposterous to me at my location

 

[Bad Ronald]

...57$ labor seems preposterous...

I agree that $57 is an unfriendly charge for this.
I also thought $20 (tube included) was an unfriendly charge the only time I ever had a tire shop replace an inner tube for me.

Circumstances determine what is reasonable for anyone of us to pay to get up and working again.

I'm glad this problem was fixed properly. You won't have to worry about it again.

 

[ttazzman]

I agree that $57 is an unfriendly charge for this.
I also thought $20 (tube included) was an unfriendly charge the only time I ever had a tire shop replace an inner tube for me.

Circumstances determine what is reasonable for anyone of us to pay to get up and working again.

I'm glad this problem was fixed properly. You won't have to worry about it again.

It just highlights cost differences in services in different part of the country .... we still have mom-n-pop tire shops here that provide "meet u at the door" type service

 

[brownalan]

I had the same problem a few weeks back. But to compound it, I was in the dirt and got some grit between tire and rim. The tire would take air but leaked around the bead.

The old tire shop down the road broke it down, cleaned the grit out and resealed the bead for $10. And we chatted the whole time he was doing it.

 

[Devils10acres]

It probably took all of 15 minutes to do. Actually, I thought it would have been covered under the 1st year bumper to bumper warranty. Because they were just here fixing their screwup on the hydraulic lines perhaps they took note of the hour meter for their records they could see if I showed them a picture of the dash readout for hours used, the tractor was barely used to move it. I‘d bet anything there wasn’t much air in that tire and by simply turning spun the tire off.
Gone are the days businesses would occasionally throw a freebie the first time for some small matter to a valued customer.

Yes, it is much more for anything around here. I buy my tires for the family’s cars at Discount Tires on the internet. I have to make sure to strip the labels off the tires because the shops with tire machines will charge higher fees for tires purchased on the internet.

The average cost to mount and balance small stock wheels and tires is $38 per rim ($45 at the dealer). They won’t give me a break if I drop off just the new tires and the old in the back of my pickup and come back for them later.* This way they don’t tie up a lift bay and have another car to jockey around.

*I have a 2 post lift so I can pull the wheels and take them to any shop. It saves my kids or my wife from sitting in a waiting room.

 

[H-D dealer dude]

I’d say it saves you from laying on your back or crawling around the floor like a crab

 

[Devils10acres]

Just in case you want to know what tube size was used : 10/12R 16.5 TR15 T1012165
JD part number and cost is $30.90 Several tire web stores with free shipping are $19.77

 

[Bad Ronald]

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Sure enough. This is a link to the tube I used. Tire diameter 18", tire width 8.5", rim size 10"

 

[GSMChris]

Thanks for the follow up. Good to know size etc in the event I end up in the same situation

 

[Treefarmer]

Thanks for the follow up. Good to know size etc in the event I end up in the same situation

Tubes generally fit several sizes as long as you get the right rim diameter.

 

[arlen]

It just highlights cost differences in services in different part of the country .... we still have mom-n-pop tire shops here that provide "meet u at the door" type service

I just had a skid loader tire fixed…$25

 

[Devils10acres]

Up date to the front tire problem. I just found out the reason it happened.
The rim has a crack in it, the air leaked and deflated the tire. Instead repairing the rim (welding, sealing or replacement) the dealer decides to install an inner tube AND charge me $90 + tax!

 

[SeniorSitizen]

Up date to the front tire problem. I just found out the reason it happened.
The rim has a crack in it, the air leaked and deflated the tire. Instead repairing the rim (welding, sealing or replacement) the dealer decides to install an inner tube AND charge me $90 + tax!

That was going to be my question : Is the rim a welded 2 piece ? I had one on a tandem disc that leaked on the weld seam. I stopped that BS with J B Weld .