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Most Effective Herbicide (and No Foam?) for Dandilions, Clover and All Others -- Western WA

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#1 · (Edited)
I'm hoping to hear from people in the Western Washington region.
What's most effective herbicide for eradicating Dandilion and Clover?
Also, what "no-foam" additive do you suggest?

A Deere 25 gallon Click-N-Go system ready to go.

Your input will be appreciated.

One more thing. How do I know how fast I'm traveling? LOL
 
#2 ·
I use crossbow on my pasture grass, it kills everything but the grass. Never needed an anti-foam additive. Not sure about your ground speed, I calculate how much I need for a given square footage, and drive at an even speed until it's gone.

Read the instructions carefully, and wear the protective gear. I glove up, all skin covered, and use a respirator when I spray it. You need to monitor the temperatures too, if it's too hot out, it can turn into a vapor cloud and kill anything down wind, including trees. Best time to spray is the day after a rain, so that the plants are active. I generally spray in the late evening so that I don't have to worry about it getting too hot before the product dries. And it's a once a year application, I believe it's illegal to apply more often than that, but it does a very good job.
 
#3 · (Edited)
Look into 2-4d ....its one of the components in crossbow mentioned above...cheap to use...relatively safe...kills broad leafs...doesn't bother grass or woody plants .....the other active ingredients in crossbow will bother/kill woody plants such as trees and shrubs

2-4d comes in two formulations "amine" and "ester" amine is what i use its more common cheaper and formulated for usage in warm/hot weather......ester is for cool/cold weather

as Satch said above ...read and follow instructions ....
 
#12 ·
You can also get a low V version which is somewhat less likely to vaporize and drift. The read and follow directions is on the money. . . definitely good advice.

Treefarmer
 
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#4 ·
I have what's left of a gallon of Crossbow, although only used it mixed with KillzAll (mixed per special instructions) - To - Kill it ALL, including Indian Gum.
I'll check out what the instructions have to say.

Thank You
 
#5 ·
Trimec will take care of all broadleaf lawn weeds. It's 2,4-d, Dicamba, and MCPP. Any one of those three products has some limitations, but all three pretty much nail anything broadleaf in your lawn. I highly suggest it. There are various brands and quantities. I use Trimec 992 and just buy a 2.5 gallon jug to last me a few years. trimec - Do It Yourself Pest Control

Crossbow is not for use on lawns! The intended target is brush, woody plants, vines, etc or in pastures. Think in the woods or roadsides. Yes it will kill the dandelions and it will probably not kill your lawn. But it's not intended or labeled to be used on lawns so I would suggest not using for such.. It is 2-d,d and Triclopyr. There are broadleaf lawn weeds that need the dicamba and MCPP, which crossbow doesn't have. It's also more expensive the right tool for the job.

If you have mixed anything with "KillzAll", don't use that. That's a generic round up (glyphosate) and will kill the grass.
 
#6 ·
Trimec will take care of all broadleaf lawn weeds. It's 2,4-d, Dicamba, and MCPP. Any one of those three products has some limitations, but all three pretty much nail anything broadleaf in your lawn. I highly suggest it. There are various brands and quantities. I use Trimec 992 and just buy a 2.5 gallon jug to last me a few years. trimec - Do It Yourself Pest Control

Crossbow is not for use on lawns! The intended target is brush, woody plants, vines, etc or in pastures. Think in the woods or roadsides. Yes it will kill the dandelions and it will probably not kill your lawn. But it's not intended or labeled to be used on lawns so I would suggest not using for such.. It is 2-d,d and Triclopyr. There are broadleaf lawn weeds that need the dicamba and MCPP, which crossbow doesn't have. It's also more expensive the right tool for the job.

If you have mixed anything with "KillzAll", don't use that. That's a generic round up (glyphosate) and will kill the grass.
Matter of fact, the Evergreen and Salmon Berry are what my mix was purchased for, and intended SOLE use of. It does kill everything. I also use it for fence-lines, and anything trying to creep through the Asphalt.

I was a bit leery to use Crossbow, though the mixing and cautionary labels say it is fine for bloadleaf, and does not hurt grasses. So, I'm getting mixed info.

These are "most" of the weeds in my area.
Dandilion
Creeping Buttercup
White Clover
Shotweed
Corn Speedwell
 
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#7 ·
First, you need to calibrate and apply are the correct rate.

A 3 way herbicide is fine for your application, choices would include, Trime, Mecamine D, or Vessel. Purchasing at a Co-op or Ag store will be much cheaper than homeowner based products. This place is decent too.

Broad leaf suppression will be much more effective in the Fall rather than right now. Results will not be dramatic as spraying in the Spring when actively growing, but will yield better results.

Finally consider using a non ionic surfactant which makes the herbicide more effective and minimizes drift. i.e. Li-700
 
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Oh it sounded like you already mixed it and that was all you had left at the moment.

If you have some crossbow sitting around, there's probably no harm in going out there to kill the dandelions. Broadcast spraying across the lawn I would probably avoid. If you have enough weeds that you want to broadcast spray the whole yard, get the Trimec. But just spot spraying some weeds here and there is probably not going to hurt anything but the weeds.

I highly recommend a premergent like barricade or dimension (or their generics) for the lawn. There will be no weeds to spray anymore. If you're planning on overseeing this fall, start the pre-emerent in the spring. Otherwise, there's no time like the present!
 
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Done after a rain or hosed down. Use as directed. Took out all of the clover and dandelions. I have been inundated with clover for a year and a half since hydroseeding. Didn’t have a clue what to use. Neighbor turned me into this stuff. It works well and has been weed free since applying it in late April. The second picture is my actual front lawn. It’s weed free and the nicest lawn I’ve ever had.
 
#13 ·
Use 2,4-D after the first hard freeze. No more dandelions or creeping Jenny.

rob
 
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#14 ·
How long after using Trimec or a broad leaf killer can you overseed?
 
#15 ·
3 weeks according to the label. And also should not be applied to new grass until it is mature enough to mow a few times.
 
#28 ·
NICE

rob
 
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#20 ·
Low V purchased.
Thanks everyone, for being helpful.

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#21 · (Edited)
As noted, it's best to apply the herbicide, after taking the tops off the weeds, so I loaded up the sprayer full of water, and tested the load while mowing.
During the course of the dry run, (not spraying) all went well, balance-wise.

The Sprayer Booms caught on the chain-link fencing in a few areas, so I was bending them back in place.
That's not a good thing, catching, and having to straighten them, too many times, as they will eventually FAIL.
I got to thinking, about how I can avoid this.

This is how I remedied catching the fence, and other things. The Poles are 7ft, and centered. Which after a test run, are perfect, in reference to the spray width as well.
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#22 ·
I want to add some colorant dye to the herbicide mix.
I'm not paying $30 for a bottle!!

What's a CHEAP and effective alternative?
And, don't tell me to get the John Deere brand!! LOLOL
I want CHEAP :p

RIT Dye?
 
#23 ·
No I would not recommend RIT dye..go to Amazon..lots of “cheap” dyes available....
 
#24 ·
I'm not sure what to get. I watched a video, comparing three, and they all seemed to not work well, visually
 
#25 ·
Lawn Star seems to have good reviews, recommended mixing ratio is 1/2 ounce per gallon of water.

On edit Lazer also has good reviews
 
#26 ·
Why get rid of them? They provide some food for the insects in your otherwise green desert. In the olden days, they used to actually put clover seed into grass seed.

2,4D (active ingredient) will generally take care of both, but you have to be VERY CAREFUL in using it. In warm temps, just the act of spraying it is enough to volatilize a lot of it. Then it can drift for miles away until it hits a cold spot and condenses out to kill someone's shrubs or veggies. Read the label to see where any excess goes. It isn't tied up in clay soil like excess of glyphosate is. Glyphosate would kill everything green though.

Ralph
 
#27 ·
I kill both dandelions and creeping jenny (bind weed) with plain old 2,4-D. But don't spray them till after the first hard freeze. Really cleared then all out.

rob
 
#30 ·
I used the blue dye a few times when I first started spraying. Holy crap. On small drop will turn your hands blue. It really didn't help much on green grass. So I don't usually use it.
 
#31 · (Edited)
I actually feel the same way, but at the same time, it would be nice to see where I've sprayed. After watching videos, the color change where they sprayed, really was not noticeable.
You see where I mentioned RIT Dye. There are some bright color choices that will be visible on grass. I think.
I have not found any info, to know if it's compatible. I wouldn't want to neutralize the efforts!!
Edit- I take that back. I just found this related to the RIT Dyes
 
#32 ·
A different color would probably be more helpful than blue on green grass. Oh BTW, if you have pets, they will have blue paws until it gets rained off....
 
#33 ·
Pink, Purple, Red, Blue, would probably be the most noticeable. And it's pretty cheap.
Over spray may be an issue with setting into wood, concrete and whatnot. And, I would think the color would not necessarily set, once it's dried.
Moisture, after the initial drying, may wick the dye again.
 
#35 ·
That would be comical to see on the dogs. LOL
Until they track in inside.
 
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#37 ·
White carpet?
My place is in the country. Eight dogs, in/out through their dog door, 24/7/365
And they won't wipe their dang feet!!
I've got the tracking of muddy feet, nipped in the bud.
Soon, all carpet is going bye-bye.
 
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